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TulaneUVA
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Chokes for waterfowl: Patterning my gun this weekend (UPDATED OP W/ RESULTS)


What choke restriction do you use?
What brand?
On what gun?
Ammo do you shoot?
And have you patterned your gun with all of the above?

I'm getting ready to do a trial of choke tubes with various kinds of ammo and pattern them. Will calculate pattern % (pellets in 30" circle divided by the total # of pellets in shell) doing 3 shots for each combo (to get average since shots vary).

Performing per this website:

LINK

Will post results

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Alright, so this is Phase #1 of the results. I used Phase #1 to weed out the chokes I didn't like (and hopefully get my money back). So how did I do it?

Hung paper targets with a 30" circle. Shot each from about 35 yards away. I counted each pellet penetrated within the circle and then cut open a shell to count the pellets. Turns out the Kents and Black Clouds have about the same (154 vs 152). Calculated percentage using these numbers. Something interesting I noticed is that Black Clouds have these weird BBs mixed in. Darker in hue and look a lot different.



The exact specs of the Kents were the SilverSteels (my shells of choice): 3", 12ga, 1-1/4 load, 2" shot, 1480 fps
Black Cloud: 3" 12ga, 1-1/4 load, 2" shot, 1450 fps

What chokes did I use?
1. Kick High Flyer Modified (Ported)
2. Browning "Standard choke that came with gun" Modified (Flush with barrel)
3a. PatternMaster Extended range (ported)...used with Kents only
3b. PatternMaster Full choke Black Cloud (unported)...used with Black Clouds only
4. Carlson's Black Cloud Mid Range (Unported)

Alright, so the results?



My conclusions:

- Kents have a better pattern % than Black Clouds on average among all the various chokes
- Kicks had the best percentage with Kents but the worst percentage on average with Black Clouds.
- I'm going to keep the kicks and keep shooting Kents.
- I'm taking back the Carlson's (worst percentage on average with both loads)
- Also taking back Patternmaster. Not worth the money IMO.

I'm going to try this again with just the Kicks and Browning choke with Hevi-Metal and Remington loads another time.

Pic of best combination (kent + kicks)





This post was edited on 7/28 at 3:03 pm



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KingRanch
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re: Chokes for waterfowl: Patterning my gun this weekend (UPDATED OP W/ RESULTS)


i shoot a kicks high flyer xtra full at everything in SBEII

fiocchi golden waterfowl



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BourgsTheWord
Member since Apr 2008
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re: Chokes for waterfowl: Patterning my gun this weekend (UPDATED OP W/ RESULTS)


Modified
Kick's High Flyer
Benelli
Cheap shit---Kent or Remington
No






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bbvdd
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Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
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re: Chokes for waterfowl: Patterning my gun this weekend (UPDATED OP W/ RESULTS)


Shoot the Benelli factory choke either improved or modified

Shells are usually Kent, Federal or Winchester

3.5 inch. BB






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'Merica
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'Merica
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re: Chokes for waterfowl: Patterning my gun this weekend (UPDATED OP W/ RESULTS)


I love the Kick's Modified

3.5 #3 shot Winchester Xpert Hi-velocity






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DownshiftAndFloorIt
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re: Chokes for waterfowl: Patterning my gun this weekend (UPDATED OP W/ RESULTS)


I shoot a patternmaster with federal cheapo 3" #2 or 3

Extremely good patterns. Not worth $100 though.

I paid $65 for mine

It's an incredible buckshot choke, but not anything super special for steel.






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Junky
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re: Chokes for waterfowl: Patterning my gun this weekend (UPDATED OP W/ RESULTS)


You're getting way too complicated for a shotgun my man.





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GREENHEAD22
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re: Chokes for waterfowl: Patterning my gun this weekend (UPDATED OP W/ RESULTS)


I shoot a Carlson mod and what ever shells I happen to have. Thinking of getting a case of 3" #3 blackclouds though for this year.





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TulaneUVA
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re: Chokes for waterfowl: Patterning my gun this weekend (UPDATED OP W/ RESULTS)


quote:

You're getting way too complicated for a shotgun my man.



How else would you do it? Too many variables and most everyone is doing it...just maybe not as methodically or all at once.






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Polar Pop
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re: Chokes for waterfowl: Patterning my gun this weekend (UPDATED OP W/ RESULTS)


I shoot factory Beretta modified at woodies and in the timber. Patternmaster Extra Full out in the field.

Gun: Beretta AL390

Ammo: Blindside #2,3,4. Kent SpeedSteel when I'm broke. Xpert T Shot for geese.






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DownshiftAndFloorIt
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re: Chokes for waterfowl: Patterning my gun this weekend (UPDATED OP W/ RESULTS)


You're welcomed to borrow mine. I have a patternmaster and some kinda Carlson dead coyote buckshot choke for an 870





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Polar Pop
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Double Post


This post was edited on 7/17 at 9:42 pm


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BourgsTheWord
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re: Chokes for waterfowl: Patterning my gun this weekend (UPDATED OP W/ RESULTS)


You shoot a Maxus correct?


This post was edited on 7/17 at 9:43 pm


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joshric
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Member since Jul 2012
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re: Chokes for waterfowl: Patterning my gun this weekend (UPDATED OP W/ RESULTS)


Mid Range and Extended Range package
Hevi-Shot choke tubes
Benelli Vinci
mostly Hevi-metal 3" #3s

i patterned black cloud, hevi metal and kents last season and Hevi metal preformed best. i set up the targets at a "close" (30yd) and a "far" (45 or 50?yd) for the respective chokes.

i switched to the extended range choke ( .696) b/c specks started showing up later in the season and im pretty sure i missed less often with the extended range on ducks so it stayed in there.

let us know the results please






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TulaneUVA
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re: Chokes for waterfowl: Patterning my gun this weekend (UPDATED OP W/ RESULTS)


Yep





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DownshiftAndFloorIt
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re: Chokes for waterfowl: Patterning my gun this weekend (UPDATED OP W/ RESULTS)


Hell you can borrow my whole gun if you want. I've never had the motivation to pattern much of anything out of mine. Shot a federal #3 out of it, pattern was fantastic, that's what I use





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TulaneUVA
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re: Chokes for waterfowl: Patterning my gun this weekend (UPDATED OP W/ RESULTS)


Haha thanks downshift. I think I should stick to one gun as the control. After all this is the gun I hunt with 100% of the time





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BourgsTheWord
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re: Chokes for waterfowl: Patterning my gun this weekend (UPDATED OP W/ RESULTS)


quote:

After all this is the gun I hunt with 100% of the time


my apologies






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DownshiftAndFloorIt
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re: Chokes for waterfowl: Patterning my gun this weekend (UPDATED OP W/ RESULTS)


shite. Thought I was gonna get some free patterning outta this.





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34venture
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re: Chokes for waterfowl: Patterning my gun this weekend (UPDATED OP W/ RESULTS)


I'm not real sure to be honest.

Fiochhi golden pheasant, errrrrr I mean waterfowl.






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