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I really don't forsee anyway for the black population to better itself. It all starts at home with the parents and sadly they have some of the worst parents on earth. I was blessed with two good parents who helped me, educated me outside of school, took me on trips showing me what exists and taught me that nothing short of hard work would allow me to live the life I grew up with.

Blacks for the most part grow up poor but it's a different type of poor, its neglected and uneducated, poor. My dad was one of nine children of an immigrant who still made sure his 9 kids were educated succeeded at school. All 9 kids are productive members of society. Tons of my parents friends are the same way. I'd love to see a large number of poor blacks become educated and successful on their own, but Im not an optimist, the parents dont give them the environment to do so.

Even barack obama....lets not pretend this guy grew up in the hood. He was raised by a white mom and white grandma. His mom was an executive, he wasn't exactly some po, uneducated negro here, so let's not pretend like any black can just become president. Obama went to Harvard, the average black man couldn't point to where harvard is on a map






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That's a long tweet





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RCDfan1950
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This worm will turn guys. We have a handful of Marxist Egalitarians who have controlled the Colleges for the last few decades (Obama, et al), the chip-on-the-shoulder race-baiters who want payback....the duped and sell-out-for-money Unions...and a handful of *Moderates* who will be getting a reality shock soon enough....and most of all...Big Ben Bernacke who has been keeping this whole house of cards afloat and hoping for a miracle.

It is all coming to a head in just a matter of years. 4-5...as soon as the cheap money runs out. When that happens, power will go back to the Local Communities, on the strength of their MERITED VIRTUE AND VALUE. They will stand or fall accordingly.

The good folk waaayyy outnumber the yahoos. Don't run. Fight for your home. Hell, it the World Statist triumph...they'd come for wherever you went for Freedom anyway. They are like the Islamists...they can't rest until EVERYBODY does it their way.







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805tiger
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Ok, explain. I'm listening.


There are many people in the hood that tell the younger generation about not making the same mistakes I made (some listen some don't). They encourage them to do good in school and get a job. I grew up in the hood so I know how people interact with each other. You just have low expectations for every inner-city kid that you bought into that notion that is very stereotypical.



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ThaBigFella
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Im sorry but my dad grew up in poverty but he had a superb work ethic instilled by his parents into all his siblings. I just haven't seen too many rags to riches stories from urban inner city youths. For some reason my parents friends are all poor kids who become successful, all from greece, so I've seen firsthand my entire life poor to successful immigrants. I have yet to see a giant collection of poor to successful black people......well if you exclude musicians and athletes.

So until I see anything decent out of that population in terms of success,degrees,or any other accomplishment worth noting I will continue to have a bad view on poor african-americans. All I see right now is a group of whiners who complain that we haven't done enough for them



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There are many people in the hood that tell the younger generation about not making the same mistakes I made (some listen some don't). They encourage them to do good in school and get a job. I grew up in the hood so I know how people interact with each other


Why do so many of them not listen then?






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You're 58? Then this might make you feel better.

LINK






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805tiger
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successful black people......well if you exclude musicians and athletes.



So only being a musician or an athlete makes you a success? I guess if you become a police officer, store manager, banker, teacher, etc. means you failed.






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ThaBigFella
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Oh so you're one of those guys in the boat of success is if you just grow up and become a good person and don't achieve monetary success using your brain?

Do you believe in kids not keeping score at games when they're little also? Of course success is determined by growing up and becoming a taxpayer first and foremost.

What I meant was you don't have hardly any young blacks growing up in the hood and achieving big financial success like you do from whites and other immigrants like asians,indians,and middle easterners who come to the US broke as could be.......just like these poor blacks you mention.






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805tiger
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Why do so many of them not listen then?


That's a hard question to answer. A lot of them don't have family support which I believe is the biggest problem in the inner-city. Of course you always having those thinking their making a good living doing illegal acts. Its all about broadening your horizons, which many don't do because of a hopeless feeling which I don't really understand.



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So until I see anything decent out of that population in terms of success,degrees,or any other accomplishment worth noting I will continue to have a bad view on poor african-americans. All I see right now is a group of whiners who complain that we haven't done enough for them
you see what you want to see. you like to imagine your story is better than everyone else's. The truth is there are a million stories like the one you described in black communities. They just don't make the most noise.






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Scoop
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This case didn't really cause anything, it just brought some things to light.

It has showed how shallow and silly a great percentage of our populace has become.

No person with an understanding of our legal system that actually kept up with the trial could be outraged with the verdict.

I would wager that 95% of the the people that seem outraged about this verdict received the full balance of their knowledge regarding it from 2nd and 3rd hand sources, many of which did not provide them with factual knowledge.

I agree that it is becoming more and more frustrating observing the histrionics of the uninformed.

We are truly doomed.






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805tiger
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Oh so you're one of those guys in the boat of success is if you just grow up and become a good person and don't achieve monetary success using your brain?



You remind me of one of those guys that believe anybody not at your level is a failure and didn't work hard...

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What I meant was you don't have hardly any young blacks growing up in the hood and achieving big financial success like you do from whites and other immigrants like asians,indians,and middle easterners who come to the US broke as could be.......just like these poor blacks you mention.



I can argue that most of the black people who made huge financial success grew up poor. There definitely not enough and that goes back to my previous post.






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ThaBigFella
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you see what you want to see. you like to imagine your story is better than everyone else's. The truth is there are a million stories like the one you described in black communities. They just don't make the most noise.


Is this a joke? I frequent small businesses all the time and once in a blue moon do I meet a black owner. It's for the most part any race but blacks. I went to private schools my whole life, had less than 10 black kids in my school, got my MBA, had less than 5 black people in my program, worked in NYC, where again had less than a handful of black people in my division at a top company in our industry.

I don't know what world you live in where you are seeing all these successful black people who aren't athletes and entertainers but I live in a very good life and in my nice condo here in Dallas, there isn't 1 black person. Nope, not 1 doctor, lawyer, nothing here. So please enlighten me on where all these successful black people are bc I know the immigrants are a very dominant crowd in the small business world and there are more success stories than I can even count.



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Scoop
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My dad's side was a catch all for poverty. My grandad was orphaned at 12 and basically grew up in the woods with his older brothers. He was 32 when he married my grandma. She was 16. Neither had an education to speak of.

They had 8 kids that grew up dirt poor but were raised right.

All 8 kids ended up middle to upper middle class and the one's that didn't go to college, their kids did.

frick the cycle of poverty.






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ThaBigFella
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exactly scoop same as my dad...





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805tiger
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They had 8 kids that grew up dirt poor but were raised right.


That's all I've been saying... . But, posters on her just want to keep firing back until someone says black people are stupid and useless they can't figure out anything.



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BigJim
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I disagree. I don't like the animosity, but the fact that even though there was enormous political pressure to convict (at least two lost their jobs) the justice system had the correct outcome. I really think that should be heartening.







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ThaBigFella
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Im not saying, they're saying that by the percentage of them growing up living in poverty or ending up incarcerated.

What's the percentage of poor hindu americans ending up on food stamps and in jail? I promise you it's much lower than blacks. Hell i'd bet damn near every foreign race is lower than african americans in that regard on a percentage standpoint.

Their actions are why we have such stereotypes.






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Scoop
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We had our family reunion this past Saturday. A hundred people that came from 2 poor, uneducated people and somehow no one is poor and uneducated.

It is because the cycle of poverty can be easily broken.






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