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What has the GZ/TM situation taught you?


Just some candid thoughts on the whole situation. If you would like to comment on what someone else has said, don't be exhaustive. Why not just say your two cents and be done with it?

Here is what I've learned:

I have learned, bar-none, that race relations is still the most passionate, most powerful subject/issue that is on the minds of the black community.

I don't know what exactly it is they want though. I don't know if they want to talk about it, get some type of compensation for past ills, get special treatment à la native Americans..I don't know.

Maybe, they just want to be angry. Maybe in a perpetual cycle of "epic fail as a race"(those the words of one poster) they have collectively given up on being a citizen of America, and are just stuck with being born here.

Seriously. Save for peanut butter, dribbling a ball, and a few music contributions, what really have blacks contributed to American prosperity? Absolutely nothing. I stand by this statement: Blacks are, and have always been, worse off now, than before the Civil Rights movement.

That's right. We murder each other at exponentially a much greater clip. We have more single, unwed mothers ever. A very high percentage of us are incarcerated. And a majority of Americans view the first ever black President as a failure (ill stop short of saying collosal).

I have learned black people are angry. I'm not. I won't cower in a corner and refuse to talk about race. It is so important we talk about it.

But to kid yourself to the notion that everything is not either political or racial, well, that's doing your conscience, at the least, a disservice.

And let me say lastly, the jury came to the right decision. I think they sympathized with the raw emotions of parents and loved ones, ignored the anger that just always seems to elicit a bad decision (as in the case of the deceased) and rightfully acquitted George Zimmerman.

Unless someone else just has more beef on how shitty us black people have been for the past...well damn, our entire history, just tell us what you learned from this event.



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Seriously. Save for peanut butter, dribbling a ball, and a few music contributions, what really have blacks contributed to American prosperity? Absolutely nothing. I stand by this statement: Blacks are, and have always been, worse off now, than before the Civil Rights movement.

That's right. We murder each other at exponentially a much greater clip. We have more single, unwed mothers ever. A very high percentage of us are incarcerated. And a majority of Americans view the first ever black President as a failure (ill stop short of saying collosal).


nice post

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I have learned black people are angry.


they are not angry. They are easily led by those who WISH them to become angry to advance a political agenda...by using lies.

Sadly I have learned that many would rather live in ignorance, than seek truth.






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I have learned, bar-none, that race relations is still the most passionate, most powerful subject/issue that is on the minds of the black community.

I don't know what exactly it is they want though. I don't know if they want to talk about it, get some type of compensation for past ills, get special treatment à la native Americans..I don't know.

How many of them have you asked about it?






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GoBigOrange86
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That for many, emotion will always trump fact.





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You are going to piss off the progressives with this post and you will probably be told that you are an Uncle Tom.

Posters like the veldt, easy and vor will not appreciate this post.

Good.






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I have learned, bar-none, that race relations is still the most passionate, most powerful subject/issue that is on the minds of the black community.


That's all I have learned...cake and eat it, too. It is as if the black community thinks killing their own is acceptable since they were all given a bad start in America to begin with. Rationality is few and far between for the most part as even the educated blacks seem to be the worst on the sound off about this whole ordeal.

Other than that, I know racism and "profiling" will always exist. This is why BR residents have moved to outskirts. It's why when at a convenience store and a homely looking black man approaches you for money, you ignore him as opposed to a hot blonde with big tits. Still, whites do not get on the soapbox about this crap. Blacks do.



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That for soft, fat, and slow people, guns really are a great equalizer.





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Racism still exists on both sides of the issue

Our media should be drawn and quartered for the bull shite they're willing to do to sell a story.

at the end of the day people often forget that someones kid did die in all this. It's a very tough situation for the family and i've seen little to no compassion for them since everyone decided TM was a thug.






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And look who we're talking about before people get liberal arse pissy.

This is a community that needs to rectify itself in new ways. Stop giving away money. Start by punishing fathers who abandon children with multiple women.

1 in 3 black men from ages 18-50 are incarcerated.

Many black men die before the age of 60 due to heart failure.

Most publicly-educated blacks do not come from a nuclear family.

Bill Cosby, God bless him, spoke out and called out black "fathers" and then was slammed for doing so.

Yes, white people get all this, too. I get it. More gov't handouts than blacks, but keep in mind the misperceived notion that blacks are not catching up to whites in population the way some would think. PER CAPITA.

Meanwhile, whites aren't gang banging in the streets in every major city over shipments of drugs that were handed to numerous other races before it got to them. You do not see the Arabs, Greeks, Dutch, and Indians shooting each other up. If black males want to avoid being killed, stop getting in the "leftover scraps" drug game. The game ends when it hits the corners and avenues.






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I've learned that in much of the business and entertainment industry, persons bashing on GZ and exhibiting white guilt is the same as people attending church in order to establish credibility for their life insurance agency business.

It's feigned, but it entrenches them within a particular group.






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getting into a fistfight with a stranger is fricking dangerous





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dewster
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....that equal rights are not even close to what modern civil rights leaders in black community want.

The movement was sold years ago. It's totally driven by white politicians now. Outrage is used to push an agenda, and black votes are exploited time and time again to preserve a system that grows the achievement gap and keeps many in a vicious cycle of failure.

Sadly, until I have extra money to setup scholarships, the impact I can have on this as a white man is slim outside of mentorship programs or charity contributions.

Opinions of white people are shut down and ignored by politicans the second they use the race card. Opinions of free thinking African Americans are shut down by ridicule and name calling. People using logic to develop their opinions are ostracized and sometimes threatened. It's one of the most disgusting examples of school yard bullying tactics that I've seen....except this illogical emotional appwal is somehow very affective on adults.

The achievement gap is huge and whites shoulder way more burden of blame than they deserve. Politicans, church leaders, and self proclaimed civil rights leaders exploit this fact by using the emotion, jealousy, and hatred to their advantage. The resentment towards those that achieve is used as an invisible whip to keep African Americans where they are in society while providing the illusion of enlightenment, free thought, and justice.

I don't know how to say this to people who are driven to anger by the rhetoric surrounding every election or every controversial trial involving race......but they are being used. I wish there were a way to get that message across louder or at least provide some diversity of thought in the lower income parts of the African American community. It seems like any exposure to another opinion or lifestyle is dismissed as racist or uncle Tom.

Racism is alive and well in this country and always will be. The powers that be have many African Americans loyal to the very policies that keep them down.



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You are going to piss off the progressives with this post and you will probably be told that you are an Uncle Tom.


I'm far from an Uncle Tom. Inasmuch as I can focus in on what drives blacks, because I am black, to act a certain way, I am in no way fettered as to seeing and understanding why they think it's so hopeless.

I've been called a racist, race baiter, whatever people wish when I don't conform to their view.






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I have learned Hispanics/Latinos are White.





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RogerTheShrubber
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It's dropped my faith in humanity quite a bit.





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What has the GZ/TM situation taught you?



The political board is no better than the OT. In fact it may be worse, the OT is at least talking about other topics.






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The political board is no better than the OT. In fact it may be worse, the OT is at least talking about other topics.


No shit?






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$$$$$ They don't want any responsibility for their actions. And the liberal media agrees with them. White people aren't making them have OOW children. White people aren't causing them to shoot each other. Much of this has come from the liberal media making every excuse for their bad behavior, and Blacks accepting them. It'll never stop until Blacks accept responsibility for their condition. Can a multi-racial society work when all the responsibility for making it work falls on the shoulders of one Race? I don't see this having a good outcome, unfortunately.





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Honestly, this whole case has made me very uncomfortable. Uncomfortable, because I'm starting to think unhealthy things about blacks( or, more accurately, the community that I am privey to via media)

I see the reactions, the destruction of property, the absolute disregard for the rule of law, and I think gross generalizations. It bothers me, partly because I feel like I am being manipulated by the media, but majorly because of the implication of my thoughts.

Not sure what can be done about it.



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I've been called a racist, race baiter, whatever people wish when I don't conform to their view.


This trial has taught me that this will probably never go away. In fact, it appears to be getting worse.






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