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Debt Payoff Strategy Advice

Posted on 7/16/13 at 9:01 am
Posted by LSUengineer12
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Posted on 7/16/13 at 9:01 am
I have two major forms of debt at the moment.

5 year Used Auto Loan $230 biweekly @ 3.25%.

15 year moveable mortgage loan $351.90 @ 5% interest (Trailer w/ Lot rental property)

The auto loan is brand new (last Monday) And my first payment is scheduled for August 9th.

The trailer is my first rental investment. Rent is $650/month (Insurance + Taxes around $400/year)

This my only debt. I don't have a mortgage and pay no rent, fortunately. I do have bills (vehicle insurance, cell phone, utilities, etc.) that average probably $700/mo.

My Question is what would be your strategy in attacking these two loans and paying them off as quickly as possible?
Posted by iknowmorethanyou
Paydirt
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 7/16/13 at 9:03 am to
Send $ to your lienholder
Posted by LSUengineer12
The Best Side
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/16/13 at 9:06 am to
quote:

Send $ to your lienholder


I was asking for more along the lines of which loan to attack the most first. I know the rule of thumb is the one with the most interest, but the trailer is essentially paying for itself. Should I take the extra $298.10 from the trailer and put it towards the truck, or do something else? What's the best strategy?
Posted by iknowmorethanyou
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Posted on 7/16/13 at 9:09 am to
It seems as though your bills are FAR LESS than your income. Don't over analyze your situation. If you want to pay the car note from the excess rental income I would say good idea. Neither debt seems significant enough to say you're getting hosed on interest.

ETA: Those I know that have mobile homes as rentals tend to buy and flip some every so often or do lease to owns. That provides them with extra cash flow to pay off their rental properties.
This post was edited on 7/16/13 at 9:16 am
Posted by TheDiesel
Phoenix
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Posted on 7/16/13 at 9:37 am to
What kind of used car did you get to need a 5yr auto loan?
Posted by LSUengineer12
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Member since Dec 2011
1850 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:11 am to
2011 Ford F-150 4door 4wd 20,000 miles. Excellent condition. 28k

Bought it privately and financed through my credit union
This post was edited on 7/16/13 at 10:12 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:54 am to
quote:

2011 Ford F-150 4door 4wd 20,000 miles. Excellent condition. 28k



You could have bought new at that price. Any reason you went used?
Posted by LSUengineer12
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/16/13 at 11:00 am to
I looked at every F-150 within a 100 mile radius of BR. Both dealership and Private. With the miles it had it was by far the best price. The closest something came with the same specs and miles(4x4 4door) was like 2k. if anything was the same price it had 20-30k more miles. Didn't hurt it was already leveled with 34" tires.
Posted by LSUengineer12
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/16/13 at 11:01 am to
Ecoboost as well..
Posted by TheDiesel
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Posted on 7/16/13 at 11:03 am to
I know someone with a comparable Ford and when he put the leveling kit on with the bigger tires his mpg dropped more than it would have with a similar truck w/o ecoboost.
Posted by LSUengineer12
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/16/13 at 11:03 am to
Also, if I were to go through a dealer, I believe they would have tried to lowball me on the trade in. Selling my old truck privately probably made me more money.
Posted by LSUengineer12
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/16/13 at 11:05 am to
quote:

his mpg dropped


That's usually the case with bigger tires.

I'm averaging 17 even with the tires which beats the 13.6 I was getting in my old truck (without larger tires)
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/16/13 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

I looked at every F-150 within a 100 mile radius of BR. Both dealership and Private. With the miles it had it was by far the best price. The closest something came with the same specs and miles(4x4 4door) was like 2k. if anything was the same price it had 20-30k more miles. Didn't hurt it was already leveled with 34" tires.



Should have gone to Houston, and 2k would have been worth it for 2 years newer and 20k less miles.

Make sure your truck has had the upgraded charge air cooler. It was a major issue for the Ecoboost. Should be paid for by Ford.

ETA:

quote:

Also, if I were to go through a dealer, I believe they would have tried to lowball me on the trade in. Selling my old truck privately probably made me more money.


You still could have used that money on a truck at a dealership, but I'm guessing you know that.
This post was edited on 7/16/13 at 1:03 pm
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
16440 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

I know the rule of thumb is the one with the most interest, but the trailer is essentially paying for itself.


The bolded part really is irrelevant in your situation. Money is fungible.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 11:33 pm to
quote:

what would be your strategy in attacking these two loans and paying them off as quickly as possible?


I'm not so sure that paying them down asap is the best idea. Keep in mind that a 2-3% loan is right around the cost of inflation, so that is fine so long as you have income to make the payments. At that rate you do not profit from paying off.

You have a 3.25% loan. That's pretty reasonably close to the inflation rate, no emergency here.

You have a mortgage at 5%. You can deduct that from income tax, so the real rate is more like 4% or less. Still okay.

Bottom line - don't worry about "attacking" debt that only costs a percent or so above the rate of inflation. There are better ways to use money than that.
Posted by LSUengineer12
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Member since Dec 2011
1850 posts
Posted on 7/17/13 at 8:27 am to
quote:

Bottom line - don't worry about "attacking" debt that only costs a percent or so above the rate of inflation.


So are you saying to simply pay the minimum? I believe i'm going to contribute all $650 I'm getting from rent towards the trailer note while setting aside money for taxes and insurance. It's nothing out of pocket and It'll pay it off in 7 years rather than 15.
This post was edited on 7/17/13 at 8:28 am
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 7/17/13 at 9:13 am to
Don't forget repairs, pest control, random stuff you have to fix, etc on the trailer.

It's easier to have that $200 a month always in a separate account to go to for unforeseen expenses.

That way if something goes wrong you can just take it out of that acct instead of your pocket.
Posted by LSUengineer12
The Best Side
Member since Dec 2011
1850 posts
Posted on 7/17/13 at 9:31 am to
quote:

Don't forget repairs, pest control, random stuff you have to fix, etc on the trailer.


Without a doubt. I've been doing that since day 1 and have an account specifically for that.
Posted by GumBro Jackson
Raleigh
Member since Mar 2011
3111 posts
Posted on 7/17/13 at 11:23 am to
Sounds like you are in good shape. If I were you I'd still put whatever extra you have toward the trailer since that is at a higher interest rate.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118700 posts
Posted on 7/17/13 at 11:57 am to
I would attack the car note if it were me. If the trailer and lot are in good condition and you have a high percentage of rent time per year on it, I would get rid of the car note if it were me.
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