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Quentin Compson
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Thomas Sowell: The Hunger Hoax


An older article, but appropriate since the farm bill passage without food stamps is drawing the ire of the pessimists/statists.

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When the Centers for Disease Control and the Department of Agriculture examined people from a variety of income levels, however, they found no evidence of malnutrition among those in the lowest income brackets. Nor was there any significant difference in the intake of vitamins, minerals, and other nutrients from one income level to another.

Ironically, the one demonstrable nutritional difference between the poor and others is that low-income women tend to be overweight more often than others. That may not seem like much to make a political issue from, but politicians and the media have created hysteria over less.

The political Left has turned obesity among low-income individuals into an argument that low-income people cannot afford nutritious food, and so have to resort to burgers and fries, pizzas and the like, which are more fattening and less healthful. But this attempt to salvage something from the “hunger in America” hoax collapses like a house of cards when you stop and think about it.

Burgers, pizzas, and the like cost more than food that you can buy at a store and cook yourself. If you can afford junk food, you can certainly afford healthier food. An article in the New York Times of September 25 by Mark Bittman showed that you can cook a meal for four at half the cost of a meal from a burger restaurant. So far, so good. But then Mr. Bittman says that the problem is “to get people to see cooking as a joy.” For this, he says, “we need action both cultural and political.” In other words, the nanny state to the rescue!

An arrogant elite’s condescension toward the people — treating them as children who have to be jollied along — is one of the poisonous problems of our time. It is at the heart of the nanny state and the promotion of a debilitating dependency that wins votes for politicians while weakening society.

Those who see social problems as requiring high-minded people like themselves to come down from their Olympian heights to impose their superior wisdom on the rest of us, down in the valley, are behind such things as the hunger hoax, which is part of the larger poverty hoax.

We have now reached the point where the great majority of the people living below the official poverty level have such things as air conditioning, microwave ovens, either videocassette recorders or DVD players, and either cars or trucks.

Why are such people called “poor”? Because they meet the arbitrary criteria established by Washington bureaucrats. Depending on what criteria are used, you can have as much official poverty as you want, regardless of whether it bears any relationship to reality.

Those who believe in an expansive, nanny-state government need a large number of people in “poverty” to justify their programs. They also need a large number of people dependent on government to provide the votes needed to keep the big nanny state going.



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Fat Man
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Thomas Sowell:


Great at articulating conservative positions (unlike most elected Republicans).

The Atlanta paper carries his column; always pissed me off that the TP wouldn't. It'd be nice for the New Orleans community to hear what he has to say.






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The political Left has turned obesity among low-income individuals into an argument that low-income people cannot afford nutritious food, and so have to resort to burgers and fries, pizzas and the like, which are more fattening and less healthful. But this attempt to salvage something from the “hunger in America” hoax collapses like a house of cards when you stop and think about it.

Burgers, pizzas, and the like cost more than food that you can buy at a store and cook yourself

Are liberals really making this argument? Wow, because you can only use food stamps to buy uncooked food products.






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Quentin Compson
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Are liberals really making this argument?
I've heard it plenty. But he is not necessarily talking about food stamps in this particular paragraph.






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Beer Bryant
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Not uncooked. Just not hot. You can't buy a hot roasted chicken at the deli, but when they set it in the cooler section, you can buy it. That's why you'll see some in both sections. Go to the frozen food section. All sorts of yummy foods you just pop in the microwave.





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UGATiger26
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Burgers, pizzas, and the like cost more than food that you can buy at a store and cook yourself. If you can afford junk food, you can certainly afford healthier food. An article in the New York Times of September 25 by Mark Bittman showed that you can cook a meal for four at half the cost of a meal from a burger restaurant.


Good lord this is so true.

The problem is that we have people claiming that you have to buy your food from Whole Foods or Fresh Market in order to eat healthy.

I buy my groceries from Kroger every week. Zero problems with my health. Hell, I even buy the Kroger brand bottom shelf stuff.



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cwill
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I don't know if he touched on it but there is a tired old argument that poor people are fat because their grocery stores don't have veggies. Poor people in many cases are fat because they're lazy....processed food is cheap and easy, whereas veggies and healthy food can be cheap but requires prep.





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OldTigahFot
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I buy my groceries from Kroger


Totally agree. The closest Kroger to me is in the middle of an upper middle class neighborhood and it is jam-packed every day. None of them look unhealthy to me. And, for the record, HEB has a better selection of produce and fresh foods.









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UGATiger26
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I don't know if he touched on it but there is a tired old argument that poor people are fat because their grocery stores don't have veggies. Poor people in many cases are fat because they're lazy....processed food is cheap and easy, whereas veggies and healthy food can be cheap but requires prep.


Even if they didn't have veggies, buy a cheap bottle of multivitamins and pop one every day.

My diet in college was:

-Multivitamin
-Cereal for breakfast
-Sandwich and banana for lunch
-Spaghetti for dinner (most nights)

Some of the trimmest and healthiest years of my life, and it cost me about 35-40 bucks a week.



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Even if they didn't have veggies

Frozen veggies are cheap and healthy. No waste since you only take out as much as you intend to eat. OTOH, if you buy a head of cauliflower you might only eat half before the rest is rotten.






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Taxing Authority
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Aske grandfather used to say "if you're far, you aren't poor!"

The Ida that "the poor" are amonst the fattest in our society is a symptom of more than just eating habits.






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RCDfan1950
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Sowell...smartest and most eloquent voice in the Conservative fold. Most honest too.

That's why he is marginalized.







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Quentin Compson
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Sowell...smartest and most eloquent voice in the Conservative fold. Most honest too.
Krauthammer*






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Five0
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I've heard it plenty. But he is not necessarily talking about food stamps in this particular paragraph.


People sell food stamps or the card to buy a lot of things that you supposedly cannot buy with food stamps.






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THRILLHO
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I would change everything about welfare, but requiring an ID to use EBT would be a good, easy start. To be fair, though, I am practically a nazi.





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I would change everything about welfare, but requiring an ID to use EBT would be a good, easy start. To be fair, though, I am practically a nazi.


Common Sense is often demonized by those that are making emotional based argument against a position.






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beulahland
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Dr. Sowell = Cornball Brotha

Not to be taken seriously by the left.






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