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Mortgage Interest Deduction in danger....

Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:05 pm
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:05 pm
of being screwed up by the same folks that love ethanol so much they are mandating 15% ethanol/failure at the pumps. Nice

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How could anyone think that touching the interest deduction wouldnt hurt the housing market is beyond comprehension.

Im left with just one thought.....just another tool /regulation used to share the wealth.



Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28332 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:12 pm to
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Close to half of homeowners with mortgages—mostly lower and middle-income families—received no benefit from the deduction, according to Fisher.


What a pile of bullshite.....
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:15 pm to
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What a pile of bullshite.....


It's true. They aren't paying enough in interest, especially with rates so low to claim anything more than the standard deduction.


If you owe $150k on a house at 5%, you're paying somewhere around $7,000 in interest. So unless they can itemize $5,500 more...they are just claiming the standard deduction.
This post was edited on 7/10/13 at 4:17 pm
Posted by iknowmorethanyou
Paydirt
Member since Jul 2007
6545 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:18 pm to
They did however claim the frick out of the Earned Income Credick and Child Tax Credick.
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:22 pm to
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with rates so low to claim anything more than the standard deduction


This wont always be the case yet any changes to the Mortgage Interest Deduction will.

Its a bad idea.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

So unless they can itemize $5,500 more


Well given that property taxes and PMI are deductible that shouldn't be all that difficult to reach.

quote:

If you owe $150k on a house at 5%, you're paying somewhere around $7,000 in interest.


If you are the beginning of your mortgage you would be paying a fair chunk more than this.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:23 pm to
Well those are Credits, not deductions.
Posted by iknowmorethanyou
Paydirt
Member since Jul 2007
6545 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:25 pm to
They are proposing morphing the deduction into a credit to reach more taxpayers. I believe the aforementioned credits offer the lower class plenty without altering the deduction.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

Well given that property taxes and PMI are deductible that shouldn't be all that difficult to reach.



I'm three years into a $160k mortgage. I'm not even reaching $9000 in PMI, taxes, and interest.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:37 pm to
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I'm three years into a $160k mortgage. I'm not even reaching $9000 in PMI, taxes, and interest.


I'm three years in and I am over 20K. Just saying that there are still a ton of people that can use the interest deduction. That quote saying that MOST people dont take advantage is a pile of BS.
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
9143 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:50 pm to
Unlike P&G1986 you can also itemize state income tax whereas he pays higher property tax due to TX having no state income tax. Not really apples to apples the way you guys are going at it.

Why can't people who have benefited from low mortgage rates/costs just be happy...
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:53 pm to
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you can also itemize state income tax whereas he pays higher property tax due to TX having no state income tax


Correct. I would venture to say that most people that have a mortgage and aren't in the last part of it can itemize because of the interest deduction. If the interest deduction would be taken away a lot of people would not be able to itemize.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 5:06 pm to
For the record, I do itemize... but it wouldn't surprise me that those in low income brackets that have mortgages on $125k houses are itemizing.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41139 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 5:06 pm to
quote:

If you owe $150k on a house at 5%, you're paying somewhere around $7,000 in interest.


If you are the beginning of your mortgage you would be paying a fair chunk more than this.


Doesn't matter if it is year one or year 30, 5% of 150K is still 5% of 150k.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 5:09 pm to
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Doesn't matter if it is year one or year 30, 5% of 150K is still 5% of 150k.


You do realize you pay more interest in the beginning of a mortgage right? I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you don't.
Posted by reb13
Member since May 2010
10905 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 5:12 pm to
No way they get rid of this.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41139 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 5:13 pm to
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You do realize you pay more interest in the beginning of a mortgage right? I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you don't.


Yes, because your principal is higher at the beginning then at the end.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say you don't understand math. 5% of 150K is the same no matter what year it is.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 5:15 pm to
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Yes, because your principal is higher at the beginning then at the end.


Holy shite you are fricking moron.
Posted by chauncey1
Member since May 2010
291 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 5:23 pm to
TigerintheNO,
Most mortgages have front loaded interest.
I'm going to go out on a limb that you don't have a mortgage...
This post was edited on 7/10/13 at 5:24 pm
Posted by wegotdatwood
Member since Aug 2009
17094 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 5:29 pm to
I have 150k house at 3.25%. Pretty sure I'll be taking the standard.
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