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Anyone here invest in both a ROTH IRA and Traditional IRA?

Posted on 7/6/13 at 10:27 pm
Posted by wegotdatwood
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 7/6/13 at 10:27 pm
I know some have too high of an income to put into a ROTH.


Do you try and max out both? It would be nice to get to lower my taxable income a little since all I have is a ROTH that doesn't give me that ability.



Also, through my work, I'll be putting into a 403b.

Will that impact my ability to put $ in a traditional?

This post was edited on 7/6/13 at 10:28 pm
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8164 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 11:41 pm to
You are limited by the annual IRA contribution limit. You cannot max both of those out, but you can certainly do a combo contribution.
Posted by wegotdatwood
Member since Aug 2009
17094 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 11:44 pm to
Damn





I feel like a moron.
Posted by RebelOP
Misty Mountain Top
Member since Jun 2013
12478 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 11:45 pm to
quote:

It would be nice to get to lower my taxable income a little since all I have is a ROTH that doesn't give me that ability


ROTH will thank you later since we have no damn clue what the govt is going to do down the road with taxes.
Posted by wegotdatwood
Member since Aug 2009
17094 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 11:49 pm to
I know, it's not a big deal now since I'll easily get in the standard deduction that will put me in the 15%.

The problem will be when we move to the 25% and need that 11k deduction to lower our income to the 15%.
Posted by wegotdatwood
Member since Aug 2009
17094 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 12:28 am to
I guess my wife could do a traditional, right? Or smarter for us both to do a roth?
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26574 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 12:29 am to
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ROTH will thank you later since we have no damn clue what the govt is going to do down the road with taxes.


Meh, I don't really like this argument. On the flip side, you can argue: What is to prevent the government from implementing a progressive policy where all investment accounts are subject to an income tax. At least with a traditional account you get a tax break now.


That's why it is best to have tax diversification just like anything else. Who knows about any of it? Nobody.
Posted by wegotdatwood
Member since Aug 2009
17094 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 12:33 am to
quote:

That's why it is best to have tax diversification just like anything else. Who knows about any of it? Nobody.





Guess I'll have my wife just do traditional so at least we get a little tax break now.

quote:

What is to prevent the government from implementing a progressive policy where all investment accounts are subject to an income tax.


God, that would cause me to choke a bitch.
Posted by wegotdatwood
Member since Aug 2009
17094 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 2:16 am to
After reading, I think I'll max out my HSA now.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48889 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 9:38 am to
quote:

guess my wife could do a traditional, right? Or smarter for us both to do a roth?


is it better to go jointly on one IRA?
Posted by wegotdatwood
Member since Aug 2009
17094 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 9:59 am to
No, then you couldn't save more. I don't think you can do a joint Individual Retirement Account
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25311 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 12:15 pm to
Yes. Roth is limited regardless up to a certain income level. Gains are tax free and your contributions are already taxed.

I do both....to get the extra bang for my buck early on by eliminating tax liability now and hopefully have a nice chunk of change that I can take out tax free in case I earn more than the limits later in my career.
This post was edited on 7/7/13 at 12:24 pm
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80094 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

Anyone here invest in both a ROTH IRA and Traditional IRA?


There is a limit you can put on them... I think its $5500 for 2013

I'd go Roth as your gains are tax free and you can pull your principal out at any time without penalty.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 12:18 pm to
Yes yes and yes
Posted by wegotdatwood
Member since Aug 2009
17094 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 12:37 pm to
Does it cost anything to transfer a traditional to a Roth?
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80094 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

Does it cost anything to transfer a traditional to a Roth?


I'm no expert, so I don't know if its possible to, but I know that you would have to pay taxes on the funds, since they were before taxes and Roth is after taxes.

Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 12:55 pm to
Most likely


The govt wants its money
Posted by wegotdatwood
Member since Aug 2009
17094 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 1:48 pm to
My plan, it may be a challenge is to max out my Roth, wife's traditional, max hsa, and contribute 6% of my salary and wife putting in 10% in her 401k.

That would put us saving about 20k out of our gross 85k.

Lowering our taxable income to 55k with her fsa at 5k.
Posted by RickAstley
Reno, Nevada
Member since May 2011
1995 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 2:14 pm to
I will say from my perspective, if you increase your contributions in your 401(k) along with pay raises, you may never notice the change. I contributed 6% last year and upped it to 10% this year along with a pay raise, and so far I am not missing the money. I do max out a Roth IRA and that is all of the retirement funding I do in my budget.

I feel as if I put a healthy amount into retirement and have enough left over to enjoy my 20s.
Posted by 11thACR
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Mar 2012
1652 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 4:17 pm to
NO Clue what the Gov will Do or Be in the Future should push you to traditional 401k/IRA. Save tax dollars now the amount and PV of those $$$ and PV factor between now and retirement can be Known factors.
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