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re: Fans of other teams are not too impressed with our moves..

Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:44 am to
Posted by Rubix Cube
Member since Jul 2013
424 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:44 am to
i hate people who act like they know what they are talking about, but have no clue.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71940 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:46 am to
Davis (20)- 3 years
Evans (23)- 4 years
Holiday (23)- 4 years
Gordon (24)- 3 years
Anderson (25)- 3 years

So you have a great, young core in place for 3-4 years. I don't see that as rushing into mediocrity. You figure you keep those pieces in tact and develop guys around them like Rivers, Pierre Jackson, Withey, Miller, not to mention the other guys you will draft in the next few years. Those guys become the role players important to Championship caliber teams.
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
40914 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:49 am to
quote:

I'll be honest. Even with that lineup, they could still tank for Wiggins


c on z wrote that
Posted by Rubix Cube
Member since Jul 2013
424 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:51 am to
guys lets tank with 4-5 possible all-stars on our team
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127326 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:55 am to
You're trying a little too hard there.
Posted by mm2316
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
Member since Aug 2010
6942 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:55 am to
Bob Licht is mad, bros:

quote:

BOB LICHT @hortonhomers So far, #Pelicans' "Dealer" Dell has traded 2 starters + 2 1st rounders 4 Holiday/Evans. More Atheltic. Better defensively. But, better?


I guess he fails to realize that those two starters we traded will never get you anywhere in the playoffs. I'll take quality over quantity anyday.
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
40914 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:57 am to
TWSS
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:58 am to
quote:

Dell has traded 2 starters + 2 1st rounders 4 Holiday/Evans. More Atheltic. Better defensively. But, better?
jrue + tyreke >>>>>> gravy + lopez + noel + draft pick
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
40914 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:58 am to
quote:

More Atheltic. Better defensively. But, better?


no, we got two guys who can both score and play better defense than the people we let go...but we are worse.

fricking idiot.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 12:00 pm to
They'll be solid and competitive for sure.

But definitely not an upper tier team.

Is there enough space to continue to add the pieces to make them upper tier?

That's what I worry about.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 12:01 pm to
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But definitely not an upper tier team.
all depends on players reaching potential. If and this is a big IF all of them can play up to their capabilities this team could definitely be an upper tier team in a few years
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
40914 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 12:03 pm to
i think 7-8 seed in the playoffs this season is realistic. should see improvement in that seeding over the next 3 years. hopefully.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

i think 7-8 seed in the playoffs this season is realistic.
barring injuries i'd upgrade it to likely
Posted by Rubix Cube
Member since Jul 2013
424 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 12:05 pm to
if we traded 2 starters and got 2 starters back, theoretically we only gave up 2 1st for Jrue and Tyreke +Withey
Posted by Zoombop
Westbank
Member since Feb 2013
987 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 12:06 pm to
My least favorite argument this whole off-season is where people say we have rushed this rebuild. That simply isn't true.

If we waited for next year's lottery, we risk ruining the development of Anthony Davis and giving him a bad taste in his mouth concerning New Orleans.
We would have had to find other ways to reach the salary cap floor which could mean overpaying for lesser/older talent than what we have acquired.
Perhaps the worst part is just the uncertainty that drafted players bring. Noel may not be anything. Picking anywhere outside of the top-3 next year might get a good player, but not a superstar. Overall, there's too much uncertainty with the draft.

Getting good young players on their second contract expedites the process in a positive way. Not only are they proven, but they still possess considerable upside. Now you don't have to worry with the unknown variables of the lottery and drafted players. It puts the team in the driver's seat to improve by making adjustments internally rather than continuously hoping for outside help via free agents or rookie draft picks.

Lastly, a core of Davis, Holiday, Evans, Gordon, and Anderson is very good right now. In 2-3 years, barring serious injuries, this core can be great. Certainly in the conversation with teams with great cores already.

I also can't stand Dell Demps haters who complain that he can't keep players on this roster for more than a season, yet demand that this team rebuilds. God have mercy on their souls. Rant over.


ZOOM OUT
Posted by jamal
Places Unknown
Member since Jan 2013
10928 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 12:06 pm to
to all the fricking haters...I think they mad because if our teams stays healthy and develops chemistry, we have a legitimate shot to make the Playoffs IMHO!!! Geuax Pels!!!
This post was edited on 7/5/13 at 12:07 pm
Posted by tgr4ever
Gwinnett, baw
Member since Jul 2011
16214 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 12:07 pm to
Davis had a decent rookie year? Wow.

Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71940 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

They'll be solid and competitive for sure.

But definitely not an upper tier team.

Is there enough space to continue to add the pieces to make them upper tier?

That's what I worry about.



Not upper tier this year. But realistically you only need 8 good players, 9 players at the most. You have 5 good ones already and few others guys who can develop and be decent players.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

Davis had a decent rookie year? Wow
14th or 15th highest PER in the league at 19. terrible
Posted by Zoombop
Westbank
Member since Feb 2013
987 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 12:08 pm to
Licht is still butthurt about CST losing the broadcasting rights.
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