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re: Let's Rank Teams Definitively Better Than Us

Posted on 7/5/13 at 12:51 pm to
Posted by jptiger2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
9616 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 12:51 pm to
A major factor that we will improve in from last season to this one is defensive quickness, the biggest improvement imo. We can now guard the perimeter and all the quick guards like parker and curry.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24833 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 12:57 pm to
A small upgrade at pg? I am a fan of Vasquez but Jrue is a little better than a small upgrade...
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 1:05 pm to
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A small upgrade at pg? I am a fan of Vasquez but Jrue is a little better than a small upgrade...


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Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115346 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 1:08 pm to
At the Hive is wrong. Its been discussed to death.

Watch both of them play...the end.
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49488 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 1:12 pm to
I don't know that GS is clearly better than us, and they're trying to dump salary. If they get rid of Lee (who killed us last year, though AD had his way with him on offense) and don't land a big FA afterwards, I could see them falling out of the playoffs.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61435 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 1:20 pm to
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I don't know that GS is clearly better than us,


It really depends on Dwight. Their roster can go anywhere from last year's team without Landry, which is worse, to swapping Bogut for Dwight, which is better.
This post was edited on 7/5/13 at 1:21 pm
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71953 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 1:46 pm to
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LINK


Man, how am I just now seeing this article
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19439 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 1:49 pm to
West:

Spurs
OKC
Grizzlies
Clippers
Warriors
Lakers
Rockets

East:

Miami
Knicks
Bulls
Pacers
Nets

That sticks us around 13ish overall, 8th in the West, which is probably around where we will finish IMO
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 1:51 pm to
I'd like to think these moves put the pelicans in contention for the 7 or 8

But I am a pessimist. It's just on paper now. Let me see how they gel play as a group Monty's handling of rotations etc


But I can't disagree that fans should be excited over what has been done. On paper this is a much better team with more moves possible
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
40924 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 1:56 pm to
the hornets had the lowest Pace of any team last season in the NBA. they had the 3rd worst defensive efficiency. and they were middle of the pack in points given up.

i wonder if monty is going to try to continue to keep the pace down and improve defense this season or if he will allow more running with the athleticism he now has at his disposal.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

he will allow more running with the athleticism he now has at his disposal.


If he doesn't do this with the backcourt/wing athletes he has now, it will be a mistake IMO.

playing faster is a goliath strategy. he's got more talent, so why not maximize the chances the talent has to impact the game?
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 2:04 pm to
I have no doubt they'll try to push the pace
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61435 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 2:09 pm to
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keep the pace down


Steals and rebounds lead to transition, especially when you have Holiday running the break instead of Vasquez. Pace will increase significantly just on that improvement alone.
Posted by CecilShortsHisPants
One Foty Fo uh uh Magnolia Screet
Member since Oct 2012
2811 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 2:14 pm to
I would maybe swap Houston for Portland. If the Blazers could find a way to play together, they're VERY talented.
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
40924 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 2:14 pm to
defensive efficiency is heavily reliant upon pace...do you think the PPG allowed goes up or down, and where does the defensive efficiency go? i think they allow around the same PPG, but the efficiency improves
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278142 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 2:19 pm to
I think the only for sure teams in the west that are better are San Antonio, Memphis, LAC & OKC

all the other are mid 40 win teams. That's right where i see us.

I think GSW and DEN will remain the same. DEN will prob be worse.


If houston lands Howard, we'll see where they stand if they have to give something up.
Posted by CecilShortsHisPants
One Foty Fo uh uh Magnolia Screet
Member since Oct 2012
2811 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 2:49 pm to
Boy do I love seeing LAC rather than LAL for once!!
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61435 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 2:55 pm to
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i think they allow around the same PPG, but the efficiency improves


Agreed. Remember that Withey was 2nd only to AD in blocks and he also doesn't foul much either. The Block Party did not die on draft night. Add a passable defensive center and defensive wing in FA and it's hard to not see this team improving immensely on defense in a way that increases pace.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61435 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 3:01 pm to
Golden State just dumped Jefferson and Biedrins on the Jazz.

quote:

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 3 minutes ago

Golden State has reached agreement with Utah on a trade to unload salary, league sources tell Y! Sports.

More details to come on players involved in transaction.

Teams are informing players involved in deal of the trade now, sources tell Y! Sports.

Golden State is sending Richard Jefferson to Utah as part of deal, league source tells Y! Sports.

Also, @David Aldridge reports Andris Biedrins will join Jefferson with the Jazz.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61435 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 3:02 pm to
quote:

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 1 minute ago

Andre Igoudala has reached agreement with Golden State on a four year, $48 million deal with the Warriors, league source tells Y! Sports.
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