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Posted on 2/25/15 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 1:33 pm to
sounds like some functional retards were writing down the scores.
Posted by LSUGrad00
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

I do wish I had someone that could taste my Porter and tell me why it tastes the way it does.


This is essentially what good competitions / judges will do for you. They are supposed to not only compare your beer against the style, but pick out what may be wrong and give you recommendations for improvement.

When people are giving their opinion blind it's typically a lot more honest than if they know you or it's face to face.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 2:08 pm to
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Then my IPA is showing a score of 13.5. I don't know how that's possible


That can't be right. I've entered some bad beers before, and even they scored in the mid 20's. 31.5 maybe? 35.1?
Posted by BMoney
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 2:14 pm to
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That can't be right. I've entered some bad beers before, and even they scored in the mid 20's. 31.5 maybe? 35.1?


I could realistically see 31.5 on this one. 35.1 would seem to be more likely than 13.5. I'd have to put dumpster juice into it to get a 13.5.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 2:44 pm to
I will send a bottle of Porter to B, he attends enough bottle openings he can get some feedback on it

B, maybe you can share a bottle wih a couple folks without telling them anything other than it being a porter
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:40 pm to
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dumpster juice


I think you have a name for your IPA
Posted by BMoney
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:52 pm to
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I think you have a name for your IPA


Brewing one either tomorrow or Sunday that I may name Dumpster Jambalaya in honor of this dumb piece.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 5:07 pm to
That's pretty awful
Posted by HungryFisherman
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 6:09 pm to
Since we are talking Dumpster Juice IPAs I figured I'd get some feedback on this Extract Recipe I'm tinkering with. We aren't brewing anytime soon, but it is next in line.

1lb Crystal 20L (steeped 30 mins)
4lb Light LME
3lb Light DME
2lb Amber DME
1oz Citra (60 min)
.5oz Simcoe (60 min)
.5oz Citra (15 min)
.5oz Simcoe (15 min)
1oz Amarillo (5 min)

Yeast: WLP001 California Ale
Ferment 14 days at 63-65

Rack to keg and Dryhop with: 1oz Amarillo, 1.5oz Citra, and 1oz Simcoe for a week at 63F. Will leave hop bag in keg most likely unitl it kicks.
Cold Crash in keg for a few days, then force carb.

My BrewPal App estimates: 7.4%ABV and 70 IBUs. FG 1.017

Any tips or feedback on this recipe?
This post was edited on 2/26/15 at 7:58 am
Posted by s14suspense
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 6:57 pm to
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2lb Amber DME


Would probably avoid this personally. Unless you're going for more of a maltier IPA.

I would use the lightest DME possible added majority as late as possible(15 mins)
Posted by HungryFisherman
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 7:02 pm to
that's the feedback I was looking for. Was on the fence about that, but with only a few brews under our belt, I didn't know for sure how that would change things.

ETA: what about those steeping grains? Shouldn't expect much flavor from that correct? Just some color? Any suggestions on steeping grains? Noob questions.
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 7:05 pm
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 7:18 pm to
Me, personally, I wouldn't use any steeping grains. But, that's because I want a very hop forward ipa with not much by way of malt to flavor it. The exception to that being when I make a rye ipa. That said, using a little crystal 20 to color it won't hurt a thing
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 7:48 pm to
I would maybe look for a Vienna extract to replace the amber of you want a little malt character. I haven't made extract brew in a long time so I'm unsure if they even make Vienna extract.

Also, have you considered first wort hopping on your 60 minute hops? What about whirlpool/flame out hops at the end of your boil. You could also do a hop stand.

If this is your first ipa I wouldn't worry about hopping techniques just yet. But if you are curious there are plenty of articles on those techniques. Generally speaking they account for a smoother hop bite.
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 7:50 pm
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 7:50 pm to
quote:

ETA: what about those steeping grains? Shouldn't expect much flavor from that correct? Just some color? Any suggestions on steeping grains? Noob questions.



Looks like we used to steep 1 lb crystal 40 back when we were brewing with Extract. Your () says 30 mins. Not exactly sure how you do it but you can add grains to cold water and steep the entire time you're heating up to 160-170 and that should be enough time. May save you some time if you're heating up the water - then adding steeping grains for 30 mins - then heating up to boiling.

Just a thought.
Posted by HungryFisherman
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 8:00 pm to
thanks all. Good tip on the steeping grains. I'll probably do that, steep as the water heats. No reason to waste time.

And Bug- thanks for the suggestions on hop techniques. I'll look into some of that. Especially the flameout hops. FWH will require some more reading, but I see Palmer covers it. May keep it relatively simple this time though.
Posted by BMoney
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 9:41 pm to
I'd move

quote:

1oz Citra (60 min)


to flameout/0 minutes. The more late addition hops, the better, and that Citra will be wasted at 60 minutes.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Member since Aug 2004
15934 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 9:46 pm to
I agree. I'd rather a beer with less bitterness and more hop flavor and nose.

Think that's why I like fortunate island so much, and why it will be my next batch
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 9:54 pm to
Yep I didn't even look at the hops. Switch that Citra to a Columbus or Warrior.
Posted by HungryFisherman
Houston,TX / BR, LA
Member since Nov 2013
2689 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 9:57 pm to
Oh. Nice. See, this is the info I need Moving that makes the IBUs drop drastically, but will presumably give the desirable citra flavor and nose. Makes sense.

Having read some, I may consider FWH while I steep the grains since I'm doing that anyway. fellas. Appreciate the info. Yalls experience takes some the guess work out. I'll keep yall posted on the brew
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 10:07 pm to
quote:

Oh. Nice. See, this is the info I need Moving that makes the IBUs drop drastically, but will presumably give the desirable citra flavor and nose. Makes sense.


You can use an ounce of Columbus/Magnum/Warrior at 60 for clean bittering and IBUs. Then move that half oz of Simcoe to flameout, and you'll have a kickass IPA.
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