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oklahogjr
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re: Snowden's info in hands of Russia and China?


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I haven't seen people "wildly questioning".
I've heard people asking sensible questions.

you mean the daily thread of did he give his laptop to whatever country he is in? There's nothing to support him doing that at all.

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I'll remind you this is not a policy issue, but an unfolding security issue

it's both.

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Your IDEOLOGY is way out front of the facts here. You have a clear NARRATIVE that you are DEFENDING rather than letting this unfold. Just as much as anybody who has already convicted him. Whatever happened to waiting for the facts and then drawing a conclusion when things are hopelessly above our pay grade and ability to understand? You are providing a very limited set of answers to complex questions in an ideological way about something you literally do not have factual knowledge of.


my ideology is this, the government was spying on us and that's wrong. They also created a very bad liability which is also not good. I'm held responsible for who I hire and they should be too.

thats 2 strikes against our government.

Snowden released information that didn't compromise anything so far. He is a liability but he's repeatedly said he won't be releasing anything dangerous to anyone. As long as he continues with what he says he has way more credibility to me at the moment than the government. With that said I don't trust him fully either and am waiting to declare him a hero until this all washes out. However i'm not going to label him a traitor because he flew through two countries we have political ties with because they were enemies with us 50 years ago.






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Lsupimp
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my ideology is this, the government was spying on us and that's wrong. They also created a very bad liability which is also not good. I'm held responsible for who I hire and they should be too.thats 2 strikes against our government.


So far so good. 100%.

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Snowden released information that didn't compromise anything so far


You do NOT know this.You have no idea what is happening right NOW with his laptop or any foreign debriefing. All you have is a highly choreographed media campaign meant to portray him as a hero versus a government campaign meant to portray him as a traitor. And that alone, should make you take pause about your assumptions until you have more facts.Sometimes the good guys get played too, not just the dupes....

All in good time.






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Tchefuncte Tiger
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re: Snowden's info in hands of Russia and China?


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so why is russia currently our enemy?


Because they don't like us?






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Navytiger74
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NOBODY knows


Well if I may be argumentative, I can guarantee you that at the very least, the people who may have compromised the information do know whether or not they've done so. So SOMEBODY fricking knows.

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that is the point that I have been arguing for a week now. There is no concrete eveidence.



If you saw your wife carrying a bottle of lube and a 3-pack of Trojans into a hotel room with a strange man awaiting, would you assume that she was a lube and condom saleswoman on the side?

Choirboy claims to have traveled to two essentially hostile nations (both possessing robust intelligence and counterintelligence capabilities) with laptops containing highly classified USG information. Do you think he's in a position to refuse to surrender those if it's demanded of him? Have you seen him? Have you ever been to an airport in the United States or Western Europe, let alone one in fricking Moscow? Have you ever refused to surrender a bag or briefcase at an airport? How'd it go?

You think you're being judicious here, but you just look like a fence-sitting fricking pussy. If you think this guy's a hero, at least be a bold dumbass like that stupid broad Cajun or Shorty. Don't be a bitch about it. If he carried sensitive information into a Moscow airport, there's a 99% chance it's been compromised--either willingly or otherwise. For those of us with functioning brains and even remedial powers of deduction, that's close enough to knowing.






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idlewatcher
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U.S. officials said it is “highly likely” that several laptop computer carried by Snowden were “imaged” by Russian intelligence,


only way to make that assertion is if they were there with him. Such doomsday attitudes these guys have. They have no freaking clue what did/did not transpire, yet they make such accusations? "Highly likely" is quite different than "plausible".






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Navytiger74
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only way to make that assertion is if they were there with him. Such doomsday attitudes these guys have. They have no freaking clue what did/did not transpire, yet they make such accusations? "Highly likely" is quite different than "plausible".


Another dummy.






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Jbird
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at least be a bold dumbass like that stupid broad Cajun or Shorty. Don't be a bitch about it.


Or be a cunt who needs to flap his meat curtains while being all indignant and shite.






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Navytiger74
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Or be a cunt who needs to flap his meat curtains while being all indignant and shite.


That's funny. On my soul, I actually remember reading some of your posts over the past several days and thinking "wasn't Jbird once a decent poster". You are the guy who was in the Air Force, right? (not that that makes one decent, just trying to keep it all together).

Anyway, frick off.

ETA: Unless you actually have something valuable to add--for the first time in the past several days.



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Jbird
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Anyway, frick off.


Gee and here I thought Seamen had a sense of humor.






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Jake88
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Is this worse than Bill Clinton allowing Loral to sell missle technology to the Chinese after Loral made a nice contribution to his campaign?





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Navytiger74
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Is this worse than Bill Clinton allowing Loral to sell missle technology to the Chinese after Loral made a nice contribution to his campaign?


Worth its own thread, I say. Why don't you take this there. Today, I re-read all of the espionage cases broken between 2001 and 2006 and had a lot of fricking questions about what was going on under Clinton (as well as his immediate predecessors). It's worth another thread.

What's the relevance here?






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Godfather1
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re: Snowden's info in hands of Russia and China?


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oklahogjr


Question: just how old are you?

I only ask because, reading your posts, you come across as one singularly naive individual.






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oklahogjr
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I only ask because, reading your posts, you come across as one singularly naive individual.


examples?






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ShortyRob
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If you think this guy's a hero, at least be a bold dumbass like that stupid broad Cajun or Shorty.


LOL. You still mad that the abuse of power bull shite you apparently participate in may have been nicked a little bit.






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