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Google HR Boss Explains Why GPA And Most Interviews Are Useless


Interview with Laszlo Bock, senior vice president of people operations at Google:

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Years ago, we did a study to determine whether anyone at Google is particularly good at hiring. We looked at tens of thousands of interviews, and everyone who had done the interviews and what they scored the candidate, and how that person ultimately performed in their job. We found zero relationship. It’s a complete random mess, except for one guy who was highly predictive because he only interviewed people for a very specialized area, where he happened to be the world’s leading expert.

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On the hiring side, we found that brainteasers are a complete waste of time. How many golf balls can you fit into an airplane? How many gas stations in Manhattan? A complete waste of time. They don’t predict anything. They serve primarily to make the interviewer feel smart.

Instead, what works well are structured behavioral interviews, where you have a consistent rubric for how you assess people, rather than having each interviewer just make stuff up.

Behavioral interviewing also works — where you’re not giving someone a hypothetical, but you’re starting with a question like, “Give me an example of a time when you solved an analytically difficult problem.” The interesting thing about the behavioral interview is that when you ask somebody to speak to their own experience, and you drill into that, you get two kinds of information. One is you get to see how they actually interacted in a real-world situation, and the valuable “meta” information you get about the candidate is a sense of what they consider to be difficult.

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One of the things we’ve seen from all our data crunching is that G.P.A.’s are worthless as a criteria for hiring, and test scores are worthless — no correlation at all except for brand-new college grads, where there’s a slight correlation. Google famously used to ask everyone for a transcript and G.P.A.’s and test scores, but we don’t anymore, unless you’re just a few years out of school. We found that they don’t predict anything.

What’s interesting is the proportion of people without any college education at Google has increased over time as well. So we have teams where you have 14 percent of the team made up of people who’ve never gone to college.

After two or three years, your ability to perform at Google is completely unrelated to how you performed when you were in school, because the skills you required in college are very different. You’re also fundamentally a different person. You learn and grow, you think about things differently.


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ILikeLSUToo
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re: Google HR Boss Explains Why GPA And Most Interviews Are Useless


All the novelty shite about Google's workplace made good chain e-mails, though.





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Tl;dr





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Walking the Earth
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Seems pretty self evident but kudos to Google to sticking with their methodology and actually compiling tons of data to prove or disprove the point.

Another problem with the test score/brainteaser approach to hiring is that people know about it and "study" for it, which kind of defeats the purpose.






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Interviews Are Useless


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Interview with Laszlo Bock


Not reading that shit






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This applies so much to the field they're in, though. In my experience, we tend to end up with lower GPAs because the more talented students usually end up working on outside projects, such as open source stuff or just hacking around on their own shite. So, if they're interviewing with Google, they're probably incredibly bright and went to a great university. This would explain why their GPA wasn't as important.





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I found this MSN Money blog with many more ridiculous questions/riddles that Google used to ask, I couldn't answer any of them, except the 8 Balls question. I had to think about it for about 15 minutes though.

LINK






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rickgrimes = Publicist for "Interns?"






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Who the frick wasn't aware of behavioral based interview questions?





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Interesting stuff...although I do get why GPA is not that important.





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So, if they're interviewing with Google, they're probably incredibly bright and went to a great university. This would explain why their GPA wasn't as important.

Right, maybe the guy with a 3.7 GPA isn't noticeably better than the guy with the 3.5 GPA.

But I seriously doubt google is hiring lots of people from the bottom 10% of the class.






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Who the frick wasn't aware of behavioral based interview questions?


Google, apparently.

They should have searched.






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His method wouldn't work on me. If I were asked about a real life situation where I had to solve an analytically difficult problem, I would make up a story on something extremely difficult, and how I rose to the occasion and became the hero.


ETA: Then I would be hired as their Chief Engineer making millions of dollars, but in reality I wouldn't have a clue what I was doing.

Ha Ha...suck on that, Laszlo



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I'm trained to conduct behavioral interviews for my employer....holy shite those interview sessions suck.





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Right, maybe the guy with a 3.7 GPA isn't noticeably better than the guy with the 3.5 GPA. But I seriously doubt google is hiring lots of people from the bottom 10% of the class


They are hiring people that never went to college, what would their class rank be?

"What’s interesting is the proportion of people without any college education at Google has increased over time as well. So we have teams where you have 14 percent of the team made up of people who’ve never gone to college."






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Right, maybe the guy with a 3.7 GPA isn't noticeably better than the guy with the 3.5 GPA.

But I seriously doubt google is hiring lots of people from the bottom 10% of the class.


Aww... what's your gpa? You seem mad.






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C students run the world





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Right, maybe the guy with a 3.7 GPA isn't noticeably better than the guy with the 3.5 GPA.

But I seriously doubt google is hiring lots of people from the bottom 10% of the class.


I can say from experience that most of people in those classes making stellar grades are usually extremely limited. School may teach you the basics, but if you're spending all of your time on school work, you're missing out on learning skills that'll land you jobs at Google. That's what he's basically saying. For example, my friend has a better adjusted GPA than me from retaking failed classes, but there's no doubt which of us is more skilled or has more knowledge. Getting an A after 3 tries is better than a B on the first. I just spend much more time learning new skills, languages, theory, etc. School for Computer Science and Software Engineering is just to have a degree and learn the basics. Outside of that, it's really just a degree to hold.



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y are hiring people that never went to college, what would their class rank be?

"What’s interesting is the proportion of people without any college education at Google has increased over time as well. So we have teams where you have 14 percent of the team made up of people who’ve never gone to college."


There's a difference between "never went to college" and "went to college and barely scraped by."






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