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Breaking up the Big 3
Posted on 6/21/13 at 9:04 am
Posted on 6/21/13 at 9:04 am
It is time.
I'm sure I'll get ridicule and "lol 2 championships". But in sports, if you aren't ahead of everyone else, you're already behind.
You have to make cold, hard decisions in that business.
The Heat are a deeply flawed team that happens to have the best player on the planet. That's why they won last night, not because of anything Wade or Bosh really did.
The Heat should do EVERYTHING they can to trade Bosh and Wade for a variety of pieces. They should try like crazy to get younger, to get bigger inside, and to get a bit tougher.
Wade is getting pretty close to fading. He has a LOT of mileage on him with lots of playoff runs and Olympic teams. And injuries.
Bosh is a good player who gets way too much crap. But he is a finesse big. They need some guys that can bang around so that Lebron can play more at the 3 and Point Forward as opposed to banging down low.
Agree or disagree?
I'm sure I'll get ridicule and "lol 2 championships". But in sports, if you aren't ahead of everyone else, you're already behind.
You have to make cold, hard decisions in that business.
The Heat are a deeply flawed team that happens to have the best player on the planet. That's why they won last night, not because of anything Wade or Bosh really did.
The Heat should do EVERYTHING they can to trade Bosh and Wade for a variety of pieces. They should try like crazy to get younger, to get bigger inside, and to get a bit tougher.
Wade is getting pretty close to fading. He has a LOT of mileage on him with lots of playoff runs and Olympic teams. And injuries.
Bosh is a good player who gets way too much crap. But he is a finesse big. They need some guys that can bang around so that Lebron can play more at the 3 and Point Forward as opposed to banging down low.
Agree or disagree?
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Posted on 6/21/13 at 9:05 am to Fun Bunch
Wade is retiring in Miami.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 9:05 am to Fun Bunch
if it aint broke, dont fix it...just fine tune what you already have as your base
Posted on 6/21/13 at 9:06 am to harry coleman beast
quote:
Wade is retiring in Miami.
I agree that he is. I just think that's the wrong call.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 9:06 am to Fun Bunch
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not because of anything Wade or Bosh really did
wat
23/10 for Wade.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 9:06 am to Fun Bunch
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I agree that he is. I just think that's the wrong call.
its not the wrong call if his knee is good to go next year
Posted on 6/21/13 at 9:06 am to redfieldk717
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if it aint broke, dont fix it.
That's how teams get broke, quickly. You have to stay ahead of the curve constantly, or you're already behind it. As I said, it is a cold business.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 9:07 am to craigbiggio
quote:
wat
23/10 for Wade.
Wade is trending in the wrong direction. He can be great in spurts, but he's a shell of his former self.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 9:07 am to Fun Bunch
quote:Yes, they should break up their winning formula for a different one that you like more. Seems legit.
The Heat should do EVERYTHING they can to trade Bosh and Wade for a variety of pieces. They should try like crazy to get younger, to get bigger inside, and to get a bit tougher.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 9:07 am to Fun Bunch
the rest of my post implies that you have to continue to build but you keep the core together
Posted on 6/21/13 at 9:08 am to Fun Bunch
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not because of anything Wade or Bosh really did.
Wade was awesome last night
Posted on 6/21/13 at 9:08 am to redfieldk717
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its not the wrong call if his knee is good to go next year
He's only 31. With a good knee he still has some basketball left in him.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 9:08 am to bobbyray21
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Wade is trending in the wrong direction. He can be great in spurts, but he's a shell of his former self.
Agreed, but to say he was as useless as Bosh last night is just wrong.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 9:09 am to Fun Bunch
Bosh and draft pic for iguodala?
Posted on 6/21/13 at 9:11 am to Fun Bunch
Riley isn't trading wade. He was the one who brought the big 3 together.
If anyone is traded, it'll be Bosh and i doubt that even happens. They'll just add pieces to theri bench like they've done the last couple of seasons.
If anyone is traded, it'll be Bosh and i doubt that even happens. They'll just add pieces to theri bench like they've done the last couple of seasons.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 9:12 am to jrous19
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Bosh and draft pic for iguodala?
That's a crap trade for the Heat.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 9:12 am to jrous19
Bosh for Kevin Love and call it a 3 peat already
Posted on 6/21/13 at 9:12 am to Fun Bunch
Disagree.
There's a team that tried exactly this. Dallas after the 2011 title. I'm a Mavs fans, and I agreed with Cuban at the time that it was the smart thing to do. Cuban had to make a decision: do you sign back nearly everyone from the finals team including free agents that are commanding more salaries than ever, and do you commit yourself to a full roster for the next four or five years, Even as the new bargaining agreement and salary cap were put in place?
do you start trading off everyone, and try to land a big fish for the future. Well, they did not get Darren Williams, they did not get Dwight Howard, it sure looks like they are not getting Chris Paul, and I doubt they get Howard again. In the meantime they fell to eighth in the West and ninth in the west. Was it worth it?
I don't really fault Cuban because the financial reality is a big one, but I think every Dallas fan would have said just re-sign Tyson, and re-sign Terry, and re-sign Kidd, and berea, and just let them see if they can repeat.
Hindsight is 20/20, but I doubt Dallas gets a big fish this summer, so they have another year or even two, before they have all the salary cap space. And in the meantime, Dirk is getting older.
There's a team that tried exactly this. Dallas after the 2011 title. I'm a Mavs fans, and I agreed with Cuban at the time that it was the smart thing to do. Cuban had to make a decision: do you sign back nearly everyone from the finals team including free agents that are commanding more salaries than ever, and do you commit yourself to a full roster for the next four or five years, Even as the new bargaining agreement and salary cap were put in place?
do you start trading off everyone, and try to land a big fish for the future. Well, they did not get Darren Williams, they did not get Dwight Howard, it sure looks like they are not getting Chris Paul, and I doubt they get Howard again. In the meantime they fell to eighth in the West and ninth in the west. Was it worth it?
I don't really fault Cuban because the financial reality is a big one, but I think every Dallas fan would have said just re-sign Tyson, and re-sign Terry, and re-sign Kidd, and berea, and just let them see if they can repeat.
Hindsight is 20/20, but I doubt Dallas gets a big fish this summer, so they have another year or even two, before they have all the salary cap space. And in the meantime, Dirk is getting older.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 9:13 am to Fun Bunch
No there is no reason to change at this point. They held off their most formidable opponent. A healthy D Rose in Chicago may give them some problems as well in the future.
Ive been so bitter about the Heat and how they put together this team of Superfriends, which I felt like was a shortcut to a title for those players. But after these three years, the big 3 model of All-Stars is not an easy win now formula. As a team the Heat have many flaws, but those flaws are hidden because they have the best player in the world.
Ive been so bitter about the Heat and how they put together this team of Superfriends, which I felt like was a shortcut to a title for those players. But after these three years, the big 3 model of All-Stars is not an easy win now formula. As a team the Heat have many flaws, but those flaws are hidden because they have the best player in the world.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 9:13 am to craigbiggio
quote:.............. Bosh was in no way useless last night. He had a very good game. He wasn't involved in the game plan. They weren't trying to get him shots. What he did was do what they asked him to do. Rebound and play good defense. He got screwed on a couple fouls and play limited minutes. But his defense on Duncan was on point and his pnr defense was amazing as usual. People refuse to accept it, but Bosh is the perfect big for the Heat. There isn't another big in the league that combines his defensive ability/versatility and his ability to stretch the floor.
to say he was as useless as Bosh last night is just wrong.
quote:This would be bad for the Heat's defense. Love is a great rebounder, but his defensive leaves a lot to be desired. He'd have to make huge strides. Also, the Wolves aren't making that trade.
Bosh for Kevin Love and call it a 3 peat already
This post was edited on 6/21/13 at 9:15 am
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