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Patrick_Bateman
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Esquire: Why Tipping Should Be Outlawed


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Don't shoot the messenger.

I know this subject is frequently visited on the OT, so SIAP.







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Rouge
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re: Esquire: Why Tipping Should Be Outlawed


Go to france one time, and you will understand why gratuity system is a necessary evil





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brewhan davey
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Swoopin
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re: Esquire: Why Tipping Should Be Outlawed


That's not a very legit basis for being pro-tip. People in other countries like France simply aren't as friendly to strangers.

For all of our faults our self-loathing tendencies tend to dwell on, there are some things we are without doubt above the average at. And that is kindness to strangers/hospitality.

I'll defend that statement til I die.






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JabarkusRussell
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re: Esquire: Why Tipping Should Be Outlawed


It's true. Make the owners pay their salary. They know if they do it that they will be forced to raise prices which will cut into their profit because less will eat out but they have been getting free rides for years.





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Mootsman
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More cuts in the bottom line lead to more businesses going under and a decrease of employees. Waiters need to be grateful their young or unskilled asses have jobs. Not that they have to like them.





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Old Money
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re: Esquire: Why Tipping Should Be Outlawed


Good service - good tip. Bad service - Bad tip. No service - no tip. Is it really that hard?





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JabarkusRussell
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More cuts in the bottom line lead to more businesses going under and a decrease of employees.


So you admit tippers subsidize crappy restaurants? Restaurants that already include a 20% tip then leave a spot for additional tip are crooks. Most people just glance at the bill and don't realize they are tipping twice.



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ISmellMischief
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When I know we are going to get wild at a bar or restraunt, some times we give them a huge tip in the begining.
I was told that it kept us from being kicked out for obscenities before.






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JabarkusRussell
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re: Esquire: Why Tipping Should Be Outlawed


I'm surprised this doesn't have more comments. Tip threads are usually always good for 10 plus pages.





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genro
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re: Esquire: Why Tipping Should Be Outlawed


Tipping is what motivates the waiter or waitress to do a good job.





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Jones
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re: Esquire: Why Tipping Should Be Outlawed


Didn't read link but is the author black?





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Patrick_Bateman
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White female. It's an interesting read.





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Jones
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Its interesting but she doesnt give anything besides that they should be paid more upfront by the owner and her article stemmed from being weirded out for tipping a friend who worked the coat check.

some of her stuff


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1. People don’t even understand what a tip is


Yes they do.

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2. Doctors don’t live on tips. Nor do flight attendants.


This whole paragraph is garbage. Oh doctors dont make tips? No shite they arent making tips when theyre making $50k+ a month already. Doctors also went to years and years of school to do what theyre doing.

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3. The percentage basis makes no sense


This i I somewhat agree on. I go eat a $200 meal and I'm expected to tip around $40 when I can get away with tipping $10 on a $50 meal. Slippery slope but usually those higher priced places are all filled with experienced staff and the service is expected to be top notch.

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4. Better service doesn't actually beget better tips


Agree here also to an extent. You have to really be a shitty server and even then I will still go at least 10%


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It perpetuates racism and sexism


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Black diners tip less on average than do white diners, and research shows that servers provide black diners with inferior service as a result. The tipping system catches us all in a regressive cesspool of our own worst prejudices.


So lets just ignore that black people dont respect the profession and that tips help the waiter pay his or her bills? Well, the cat is out of the bag and if for some reason tips arent allowed anymore, they are still going to get shitty service because of their previous actions.



















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Clark W Griswold
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I love all inclusives that prohibit tipping. If everyone gets paid to do a job, its not fair to the people you never see or interact with to not be tipped while the person who is in front of the customer gets a few bucks for simply his location alone. I think tipping for service is stupid and should be banned. Pay people a wage to do a job and that should be enough.





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Antonio Moss
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4. Better service doesn't actually beget better tips


Not my experience. Way back in the day when I helped manage a restaurant, we monitored our staff's tips and the better serves absolutely made better tips.

I personally think the tipping system is awesome because it allows a server to run what basically becomes a solo small-business and, in my experience, rewards those that are superior to their counterparts.






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Jones
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re: Esquire: Why Tipping Should Be Outlawed


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If everyone gets paid to do a job, its not fair to the people you never see or interact with to not be tipped while the person who is in front of the customer gets a few bucks for simply his location alone


Those people behind the scenes(cooks,etc) are usually paid a regular wage. I would imagine that if theyre getting paid the same wage, the tips are split amongst the workers.






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Antonio Moss
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re: Esquire: Why Tipping Should Be Outlawed


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its not fair to the people you never see or interact with to not be tipped while the person who is in front of the customer gets a few bucks for simply his location alone.


How can anyone be this unaware of how the business world works?






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Geauxtiga
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re: Esquire: Why Tipping Should Be Outlawed


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Tipping is what motivates the waiter or waitress to do a good job.
Salaries can do that too.






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Antonio Moss
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re: Esquire: Why Tipping Should Be Outlawed


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Salaries can do that too.


Waiters make a lot more money on tips than they could on salaries.






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