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Enough with the "swinging for the fences" comments
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:46 pm
LSU hitters were not swinging for the fences last night...except Ibarra's first AB, he was ahead in the count sitting dead red fastball and looking to lift, squared it up & barely reached the warning track.
No other player swung for the fence. It's simply not true.
Also, calling for a bunt in the 9th is a toss up (I was hoping for a bunt), but it's a toss up & CPM explains it very well in his post game comments.
That said, what the hitters collectively did a terrible job of was adjusting to the pitcher/situation & I think that has a lot to do with coaching.
The ump's zone was fairly tight yet our guys were going out of the zone all night....and hitting under the ball with way too many pop ups (not a sign of "swinging for the fences").
Good scouting would have called for the hitters to be more patient and work to stay on top of the ball (like Ross did in his first AB).
Hitters do have to change their approach in this ballpark. If they don't, LSU won't get far.
Yes, at the Box, last night's game would be an LSU win with 3-4 HRs. But you've got to adjust.
Bertman used to to tell hitters to change their approach all the time depending on the ballpark/pitcher/etc...particularly on a pitcher with tendancies (i.e. upper 80's fastball that looks like meat but is up in the zone....lay off that and take a walk or make him bring it down)
No other player swung for the fence. It's simply not true.
Also, calling for a bunt in the 9th is a toss up (I was hoping for a bunt), but it's a toss up & CPM explains it very well in his post game comments.
That said, what the hitters collectively did a terrible job of was adjusting to the pitcher/situation & I think that has a lot to do with coaching.
The ump's zone was fairly tight yet our guys were going out of the zone all night....and hitting under the ball with way too many pop ups (not a sign of "swinging for the fences").
Good scouting would have called for the hitters to be more patient and work to stay on top of the ball (like Ross did in his first AB).
Hitters do have to change their approach in this ballpark. If they don't, LSU won't get far.
Yes, at the Box, last night's game would be an LSU win with 3-4 HRs. But you've got to adjust.
Bertman used to to tell hitters to change their approach all the time depending on the ballpark/pitcher/etc...particularly on a pitcher with tendancies (i.e. upper 80's fastball that looks like meat but is up in the zone....lay off that and take a walk or make him bring it down)
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:51 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
quote:
Good scouting would have called for the hitters to be more patient and work to stay on top of the ball (like Ross did in his first AB).
“We knew it was going to be this kind of game,” said Mainieri. “We knew how he’d pitch us, and he did a lot of that. We knew he’s try to pitch up in the zone, and we didn’t lay off enough of them and hit too many easy fly ball outs."
“We worked all week on it,” said Mainieri. “We set pitching machines, throwing fastballs chest high, trying to lay off of it, get on top of it. We worked real hard on it. I though we had a pretty good play ready and we just couldn’t execute it.”
Sounds like they scouted pretty well to me.
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:54 pm to PiscesTiger
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But I do agree with the OP. The hitters needed to lay off it.
But we need to move on to the next one. We came out the loser's bracket in the SEC tournament and we just have to do it again.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:55 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
It looked to me like they weren't patient enough like you said. Swung at way too many balls and lots of first pitches.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:02 pm to Brbengal
quote:If this is true then I retract my blame on the coaches & simply shake my head at the execution (lack of).
“We worked all week on it,” said Mainieri. “We set pitching machines, throwing fastballs chest high, trying to lay off of it, get on top of it. We worked real hard on it. I though we had a pretty good play ready and we just couldn’t execute it.”
An 87-88 mph fastball is not that fast, meaning hitters have more time (relatively speaking) & should be able to recognize location and lay off. If he was throwing 95+, it's a much quicker decision and would be more understandable.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:59 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
Why is it that intelligent, rational posts like the OP's get second-paged while negative topics stay alive on the first page?
Posted on 6/17/13 at 6:08 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
But Katz hit a homerun, and then other people hit fly outs, so they just HAD to be swinging for the fences.
No other explanation for the game.
I mean Bregman and Rhymes and Ibarra and everyone else can just place the ball anywhere they want inside the park.
It's just when they swing for the fences they can't control where the ball goes.
No other explanation for the game.
I mean Bregman and Rhymes and Ibarra and everyone else can just place the ball anywhere they want inside the park.
It's just when they swing for the fences they can't control where the ball goes.
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