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re: ESPN fired Howie Schwab

Posted on 6/13/13 at 10:37 am to
Posted by Shankopotomus
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Posted on 6/13/13 at 10:37 am to
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won't be long until ESPN loses the monopoly


heh

ESPN has bought and paid for just about every major sporting event out there...so we are stuck with them at least in terms of broadcasting games for now
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71957 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 10:38 am to
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It may say more about the sports watching public.


Exactly. The morons in this thread who obviously still watch ESPN are fueling their programming
Posted by peaster68
Mississippi
Member since Dec 2011
6115 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 10:42 am to
quote:

Jamele Hill


Wish they would fire that racist bitch...
Posted by jimithing11
Dillon, Texas
Member since Mar 2011
22471 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 10:43 am to
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ESPN has bought and paid for just about every major sporting event out there...so we are stuck with them at least in terms of broadcasting games for now



True

Sad part is

CBS > ESPN for NFL, CFB and CBB
NBC > ESPN for NFL
NFLN > ESPN for NFL
TNT > ESPN for NBA
FOX > ESPN for NASCAR
CBS, NBC > ESPN for Golf
CBS, NBC > ESPN for Tennis
Posted by peaster68
Mississippi
Member since Dec 2011
6115 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 10:48 am to
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CBS > ESPN for NFL, CFB and CBB
NBC > ESPN for NFL
NFLN > ESPN for NFL
TNT > ESPN for NBA
FOX > ESPN for NASCAR
CBS, NBC > ESPN for Golf
CBS, NBC > ESPN for Tennis


Truth...

FOX,TBS,MLBN > MLB
Posted by Shankopotomus
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Posted on 6/13/13 at 10:51 am to
When Augusta sold out to ESPN for Thursday-Friday Masters coverage, I know then it was all over
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 11:33 am to
It's a true sad day. Schwab sort of represents the "old ESPN". It showed that guys could advance based solely on their talent, and even a mom's basement research guy could get on TV based on his knowledge. He made a living making people look smart about sports, and he was a walking encyclopedia, and also by all accounts, a genuinely good person.

He's sort of a hero to every person who has a blog. He's the dream scenario, not Bill Simmons.For him to get fired shows that ESPN no longer values loyalty or sports knowledge. It's a shame. The Schwab is a cult hero.
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 12:06 pm to
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For him to get fired shows that ESPN no longer values loyalty or sports knowledge. It's a shame. T


Do a lot of billion dollar companies value loyalty over profitability?

Posted by Jack Bauer7
Member since Jun 2012
5026 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 12:08 pm to
the only couple things i like about ESPN is the ticker at the bottom of the shows and espn news so i can just get the highlights
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28714 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 12:26 pm to
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Skip Bayless


So they should fire the guy of one of the most popular shows on ESPN for some guy that does research?
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
32487 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 12:28 pm to
How will I know how many bags of chips I need for the weekend now? ESPN is terrible, I watched every morning but I can't take Mike & Mike and surely can't take Jemele Hill and Skip. I now only watch the 30 for 30's and live events.
Posted by TheOcean
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Member since Aug 2004
42453 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 12:28 pm to
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.For him to get fired shows that ESPN no longer values loyalty or sports knowledge.


Meh. Business is business. It's foolish to think that you are owed some sort of loyalty from a company when you are not the founder.

Doesn't change the fact that I despise ESPN.
This post was edited on 6/13/13 at 12:29 pm
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
32775 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 12:35 pm to
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Lets fire the guy who basically built the research department for us instead of getting rid of the ridiculous contract of someone like Jamele Hill or Skip Bayless.


People don't like objectivity and facts.. they like to hate on people whose opinions are so far to the opposite end of the spectrum compared to their own, even though it takes no ability to have wrong opinions.

Skip Bayless is actually a very knowledgable journalist. He just figured out that trolling is what gets ratings.

Jamelle Hill... not so much. She's turrible.
Posted by peaster68
Mississippi
Member since Dec 2011
6115 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 1:01 pm to
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Skip Bayless is actually a very knowledgable journalist. He just figured out that trolling is what gets ratings.


This. I actually liked Skip ever since Cold Pizza.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59055 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 1:09 pm to
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Seriously, never understood the point of his role with today's technology.


wow, so you think the info just naturally exists as if someone doesn't have to complie and organize it first?
Posted by beaver
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Member since Sep 2009
46861 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 1:12 pm to
Good

Schwab was too good of a person to work for those frickers anymore
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 1:19 pm to
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Do a lot of billion dollar companies value loyalty over profitability?

False choice. One, you assume that Howie Schwab is preventing ESPN from being profitable, which I highly doubt. Secondly, continually cutting jobs to raise the stock price is a terrible business practice in the long run because you fire people who know what they are doing. The fact that we value companies more highly for doing so is kind of sick and misguided, but that's another discussion.

Finally, I'm not a stockholder in ESPN, so I don't give a shite about their stock price. I'm a consumer and care about their quality of product.... which got worse with this decision. That's what I care about.
Posted by titmouse
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Member since May 2006
6353 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 1:20 pm to
ESPN is probably just hiring consultants to do what he did, at a much lower price point. And obviously he doesn't apparently drive ratings, so it makes sense.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58035 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 1:29 pm to
quote:


False choice. One, you assume that Howie Schwab is preventing ESPN from being profitable, which I highly doubt. Secondly, continually cutting jobs to raise the stock price is a terrible business practice in the long run because you fire people who know what they are doing. The fact that we value companies more highly for doing so is kind of sick and misguided, but that's another discussion.

Finally, I'm not a stockholder in ESPN, so I don't give a shite about their stock price. I'm a consumer and care about their quality of product.... which got worse with this decision. That's what I care about.




Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58107 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 1:32 pm to
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why didn't they offer him a lower salary?


Well the fact is they might have and he might've refused it, we will never know

Times change and his postion probably isn't really needed anymore with technology but there is something to be said for loyalty which apparently ESPN bow gives zero fricks about

I swear I am very, very close to saying frick ESPN and never watching anything in there except live events. Not that I watch much other than that anyways but I usually leave it on in the background while I do other stuff considering the rest of TV usually sucks just as bad
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