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Kornheiser: Nadal has removed Federer from the discussion of G.O.A.T


Wilbon:"Steffi Graf, as great as she was, the stabbing of Monica Seles changed the dialogue -- changed history, had a big impact. So, to me, if Serena pulls even with Evert and Navratilova, she is the greatest of all time."

Kornheiser: "I'm gonna say this about Nadal. Nadal could be the greatest of all time if in the next three years he beats Djokovic on every surface. But what he established is that Roger Federer is not the greatest of all time. Roger Federer can't touch him. And he's won wimbledon twice. He's won majors on hard courts. He's removed Roger Federer from that discussion as far as I'm concerned."



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re: Kornheiser: Nadal has removed Federer from the discussion of G.O.A.T


Who's won more majors?





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craigbiggio
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I love Fed but I believe that Nadal is better. It kills me to say that.





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Hard to say you're the best ever when you're not the best of your generation.





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re: Kornheiser: Nadal has removed Federer from the discussion of G.O.A.T


Was Nadal around when Federer was in his prime? Honest question.





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Bunk Moreland
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I love Fed but I believe that Nadal is better. It kills me to say that.


This. But, let's let him get to 16 or 17 before we crown his arse GOAT.






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re: Kornheiser: Nadal has removed Federer from the discussion of G.O.A.T


Federer all time still > Rafi IMO.

Presently, Rafi and Djokivic are clearly better than Federer.



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bobbyray21
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Who's won more majors?


1. Ask Tony

2. FYI: My five year old nephew can pull up wikipedia pages on the two guys and compare the number of majors.






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USMC Gators
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I'd rather you do it instead.





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My five year old nephew can pull up wikipedia pages on the two guys and compare the number of majors.
Not without help.






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barry
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re: Kornheiser: Nadal has removed Federer from the discussion of G.O.A.T


Its a tough tough statement because Fed had NO competition till Nadal came along. Nadal probably hit his prime at the same time Fed was starting his decline,2008. Fed was still ~26/27.






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Bunk Moreland
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re: Kornheiser: Nadal has removed Federer from the discussion of G.O.A.T


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Was Nadal around when Federer was in his prime? Honest question.


Fed's prime was arguably in the '03-'07 range and Nadal was beating him then, at least in four RG's in a row. You can write off the clay stuff, but the '08 Wimby and '09 Aussie losses are harmful to Fed's legacy IMO.






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re: Kornheiser: Nadal has removed Federer from the discussion of G.O.A.T


Federer all day errrry day





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Zamoro10
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re: Kornheiser: Nadal has removed Federer from the discussion of G.O.A.T


The next great tennis player is the GOAT...and then after him, the next guy is GOAT...

...whoever is racking up majors at the time you are alive is the GOAT...

...whoever is there to talk about on sports shows is the GOAT.

GOAT has become synonymous in our sports culture with..."the present."






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Sure GOAT in France.





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craigbiggio
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Was Nadal around when Federer was in his prime? Honest question.


Rafa won his first French Open when Federer had 4 major titles to his name.






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bobbyray21
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Was Nadal around when Federer was in his prime? Honest question.


Fed's prime is generally recognized as 2004-2007

Nadal was 17-20.

Nadal won his first GS in 2005. He beat Federer in the semifinals on his 19th birthday.

The first time Rafa and Federer met was at the 2004 Miami Masters. Rafa was 17 and gave Fed -- who was number 1 in the world -- an arse whoopin...on hard courts.






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Bunk Moreland
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The next great tennis player is the GOAT...and then after him, the next guy is GOAT...


I don't know, man. I really think Fed and Nadal are 1 and 2 best ever in whatever order, with Laver also in the discussion. And Djokovic will be borderline top ten. This is a golden age, Agassi said as much. I loved Agassi, Johnny Mac, Edberg, Wilander and even now appreciate Lendl and Connors, but those guys were a cut below.






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bobbyray21
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re: Kornheiser: Nadal has removed Federer from the discussion of G.O.A.T


quote:

The next great tennis player is the GOAT...and then after him, the next guy is GOAT...

...whoever is racking up majors at the time you are alive is the GOAT...

...whoever is there to talk about on sports shows is the GOAT.

GOAT has become synonymous in our sports culture with..."the present."


Naw, I don't think so.






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barry
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Fed's prime is generally recognized as 2004-2007


The problem is that was his "prime" because thats when he was winning but he should have been at his very peak when Rafa started taking non clay court majors from him.

Also you have to factor in that Rafa was just a terrible terrible matchup for Rafa. I'm not sure if this should factor into GOAT discussion but its something to consider.






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