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Posted on 8/23/13 at 10:54 pm to
Posted by iluvdatiger
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Posted on 8/23/13 at 10:54 pm to
so Elissa nominated Aaryn and McRae
Posted by Tha Herg
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Posted on 8/23/13 at 10:56 pm to
So backdooring Amanda is the best case for Elissa. Worst case is Aaryn goes home. Not a bad HOH by Elissa.
Posted by Puck82
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Posted on 8/23/13 at 11:19 pm to
Elissa's main target is Aaryn. She has spent the last hour trying to convince Gina Marie that Aaryn is the scum of the earth.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
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Posted on 8/23/13 at 11:29 pm to
Elissa can't compete next week and I don't see anyone else nominating Amanda. God dammit.
This post was edited on 8/23/13 at 11:30 pm
Posted by Tha Herg
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 12:29 am to
quote:

Elissa's main target is Aaryn. She has spent the last hour trying to convince Gina Marie that Aaryn is the scum of the earth.


Yeah I was mainly referring to our all-knowing point of view. Getting out Aaryn would still be a huge get out for Elissa. Aaryn is a 100% enemy of Elissa's and Aaryn actually wins shite. I'm sounding too much like TigerVoodoo here but I'm not sold that Amanda would be the hands down best get out this week.
Posted by HoustonTiger4
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 12:58 am to
I think you need to break up Amanda and McCrae. Elissa is talking to Aaryn now on feeds and they seem to be partnering up to get Amanda/McCrae out. They both seem excited.

Yes Elissa hates Aaryn but they know they need to break up the power couple.
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 1:07 am to
quote:

Elissa can't get pass her hatred of Aaryn. If those two could put their personal issues aside, they could team up and control the house b/c we're getting to the point where you have to win comps. Both have proven they can do that.

Wow, what a shocking development. Elissa and Aaryn just agreed to work together to backdoor Amanda this week. If for some reason the noms stay the same, they will try to get McCrae out. Judd seems on board with it as is GM. Don't know about Andy.

The question is will Aaryn keep her mouth shut and not screw this up by telling Amanda? I'd like to think she would or else she is a goner.

Elissa has finally decided to play the game. Guess it took Helen leaving to make her think for herself.







Posted by cuddlefuddle
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 2:20 am to
Aaryn would be stupid not to take the deal. And if she survives this week (Elissa wins veto and takes her off), I hope she honors her word. Enough with the petty high school crap, time to team up and take out the house.

I'd love to see Amanda walk in the jury house and have to face Jessie.
This post was edited on 8/24/13 at 2:21 am
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 6:21 am to
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I'm sounding too much like TigerVoodoo here but I'm not sold that Amanda would be the hands down best get out this week. 


:takesabow:


Seriously, if anyone can give me a legit game play reason to get Amanda out, I'd love to hear it. And no, she's a fat annoying bitch and you hate her doesn't count.

Amanda is not going to win the game. She is absolutely the best person to take to the end. The only person she could beat would be GM or possibly Judd because I don't think the jurors will respect that he was beaten and brought back in.

The jury hates her, she hasn't won a single comp, and she hasn't even run the house the way yall pretend she has. She is the kind of player that will dig her own grave and be eaten alive by the jury in final 2.

She'd lose Helen's vote the second she tried to act like a mastermind because Helen claims the strategy for every move until last week and will resent if Amanda tries to act like she was the puppet master.

And even jurors like Candice and Jesse that may still think she was running the house hate her and would just get annoyed when Amanda started acting like a bitch and arguing with everyone when responding to questions because they hate her to begin with.

Amanda would crash and burn in epic fashion in front of the jury at final 2 just like she does in competitions because she's too emotional and can't think on her feet. I'm surprised yall aren't dying to see it, to be honest. It would be a complete shite show of a meltdown.



Plus, you have the added threat of a suddenly single McCrae teaming up with his buddies Andy, Spencer, and Judd to form another guys alliance, which should have been the MC to begin with, if Amanda leaves. This would be a worst case scenario for Elissa, and McCrae should absolutely be her target. It would be a horrible game move for Elissa to get Amanda out right now.

If McCrae goes, Amanda would be at the mercy of Aaryn and Elissa and have to work with them because I seriously doubt Judd and especially Spencer would work with her, and Andy would join them as their 4th as well, with GM as their pawn 5th.

From the guys perspective, who control the vote this week, Aaryn is 100% the biggest threat to win right now, and she'd be the favorite to win HOH next week which will be huge. I'm almost positive Spencer, Judd, and Andy would vote Aaryn out over Amanda even if she gets backdoored because she is no threat to win competitions and Elissa can't compete next week. The guys would almost certainly control the house next week, and if by some miracle Amanda won HOH Elissa would be her obvious target anyway.

I do think Amanda would go home if she's up against McCrae, not because she's a threat, but because the guys will want McCrae to work with them against Aaryn and Elissa. Which is why Elissa was stupid as shite for letting her Aaryn hate put her on the block in the first place. She absolutely should have put up Mccrae and Andy. If one wins veto, put up Spencer. Then she'd have Aaryn's full support when she likely wins HOH next week, and can bring Judd in by telling him he went home because Amanda believed he was MVP.

The guys could just as easily vote McCrae over Amanda out I guess because he's a strong social player and they may just bet on Amanda and Aaryn going after Elissa as target and they'd be safe until a guys majority could take over again. But I do think they'd vote Amanda out over Mccrae in that situation simply because he's a more likely ally going forward.


All of yall claiming Amanda has to go are thinking like viewers, not like players. Those who pretend it's the best game move would all be awful at the game and be like David, Nick, and Jeremy thinking yall are gonna run shite and have the entire house say frick these idiots and be gone in the first month. Aaryn is the biggest threat right now and it's not even close.

Sorry kids, but you're likely stuck with this till the end





This post was edited on 8/24/13 at 7:14 am
Posted by Puck82
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 8:27 am to
Holy shite I need a TL:Dr gif.
Posted by Tha Herg
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 9:17 am to
If Elissa and Aaryn teaming up is genuine and Elissa can confirm it is genuine, then getting McCrae out is Elissa's best bet.

Why?

Well simply for the fact that Elissa can't play for HOH next week and needs someone strong to play for her. If Elissa gets Aaryn out this week, who does she have playing for her? Spencer? Andy?

I'd take my chances riding Aaryn's coattails and have a new strong player to align with.
This post was edited on 8/24/13 at 9:18 am
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 9:46 am to
quote:

Seriously, if anyone can give me a legit game play reason to get Amanda out, I'd love to hear it.



quote:

Holy shite I need a TL:Dr gif.



That's just about the kind of response I expected.
Posted by Puck82
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 9:56 am to
She is the glue holding her crew together. She beats Judd, gm, spencer, and Andy if final 2. If she goes her minnions lose their shite. That's why you get rid of her.

Is that better?

ETA: see Hergs response also. Who protects her next week?
This post was edited on 8/24/13 at 10:00 am
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 10:05 am to
quote:

She is the glue holding her crew together. She beats Judd, gm, spencer, and Andy if final 2. If she goes her minnions lose their shite. That's why you get rid of her.

Is that better?



I just disagree. Spencer, Mcrae, Andy, and Judd would be an easy alliance. Spencer isn't her minion. McCrae and Aaryn really aren't either. They've both benefitted big time by working with her.

Andy definitely is a "minion", but he's just as loyal to McCrae as he is to Amanda. It would be interesting if he'd go with Helen and Aaryn or McCrae and Spencer if Amanda left.



quote:

ETA: see Hergs response also. Who protects her next week?



Herg is disagreeing with you. He thinks Amanda is not the best target and Elissa should target McCrae, which is exactly what I said.
This post was edited on 8/24/13 at 10:07 am
Posted by AHM21
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 10:07 am to
So leave her in because she's won nothing? That's dumb.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 10:12 am to
quote:

So leave her in because she's won nothing? That's dumb.





You leave her in because you can beat her at the end easier than the other players. How is that dumb?

Aaryn, Elissa, McCrae, and Spencer would all absolutely win over her. Andy may not because he really is her bitch but he's at least won an HOH. Why would they want to get rid of someone they know they can beat?

Who do you think would vote for her to win on jury?
Posted by Puck82
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 10:14 am to
Sorry but spencer is just as big of a rat as Andy is now.
Posted by Murray
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 10:21 am to
quote:

So leave her in because she's won nothing? That's dumb.


You guys give Voodoo a lot of shite but you have to respect that he cuts out all emotion in his analysis. He bets on facts, not coulda/shoulda/woulda scenario's that are unpredictable and random.

Elissa's biggest threat is Aaryn. After Aaryn is gone, production can easily tailor challenges that only Elissa could win(like last Thursdays HOH comp).
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 10:25 am to
quote:

ou have to respect that he cuts out all emotion in his analysis



Yeah I mean, somehow I've been pegged as some Amanda apologist or chubby chaser (aint mad ), but I just think this thread hates her so much they can't see why she never went home in the past and why she really shouldn't go home if these players really are trying to win in the end. She's just really not the biggest threat to them.


I know she sucks and we're tired of listening to her shite, but she's not going to win. There are much bigger targets than her for the people in the house.


The fact that she talks so much shite is even more reason to keep her. Her allies are able to squeak by without looking like dicks cause she takes all the heat cause she can't keep her mouth shut.

She's actually the perfect fall guy.


If Amanda goes home this week, Elissa is done unless Aaryn wins HOH, and even then Aaryn may still put Elissa up.

Elissa blew this by not putting up McCrae with either Spencer or Andy. The guys' bond and potential alliance is the biggest threat to the girls, and Judd coming back only solidified that.

Elissa was dumb and blew this HOH because she hates Aaryn and it will probably be what costs her a shot at final 2.
This post was edited on 8/24/13 at 10:43 am
Posted by Purple Spoon
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 11:23 am to
Aaryn and McCray nominated.

This might get interesting.
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