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re: cap space write up

Posted on 6/9/13 at 2:52 pm to
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 6/9/13 at 2:52 pm to
Technically you'd be signing Aminu using his rights only if you're under the cap, so keeping his rights may not matter that much.
Posted by 42
Member since Apr 2012
3703 posts
Posted on 6/9/13 at 3:04 pm to
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This situation seems like it would take a very precise trade. And isn't that ~$12m in space being thrown around only in the event that we give up the opportunity to use the MLE?



There are a few MLE's: Taxpayer, Non-Taxpayer (The MLE, and the Room MLE.

It wouldn't have to be a precise trade at all really. It would just have to be a trade that brought in more salary, that's all.

The Pelicans can claim to be over the cap come day 1 of 2013-2014 if they choose.

I'm more than happy to work through all this with you, we all likely learn some things, and log the results on the Salary page.
Posted by 42
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/9/13 at 3:07 pm to
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Technically you'd be signing Aminu using his rights only if you're under the cap, so keeping his rights may not matter that much.


Over, not under.

Not trying to be picky here, but this is stuff is hairy enough without the little zig-zags we all make confusing the issue more.

Like I said, Mark had an error in his write-up until I contacted him. This stuff is just hard to keep straight.
Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/9/13 at 5:00 pm to
when you guys are done speaking arabic, post an example of signing a f/a + our guys while going over the cap.
Posted by 42
Member since Apr 2012
3703 posts
Posted on 6/9/13 at 5:14 pm to
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when you guys are done speaking arabic, post an example of signing a f/a + our guys while going over the cap.



This past offseason is just such an example. We ended up over the cap and signed free agents, if at minimum salary.

The arabic is not going to stop, as that is part of the CBA. The best thing to do is for us to learn about the real rules and get better at talking about them.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63352 posts
Posted on 6/9/13 at 5:47 pm to
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The best thing to do is for us to learn about the real rules and get better at talking about them.


I left graduate school and law school behind a long time ago, brah.
Posted by 42
Member since Apr 2012
3703 posts
Posted on 6/9/13 at 5:48 pm to
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I left graduate school and law school behind a long time ago, brah.



Me too
Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
6868 posts
Posted on 6/9/13 at 5:48 pm to
will do. until i learn more ......me want pek! me want len.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63352 posts
Posted on 6/9/13 at 5:57 pm to
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Me too


Which . . .to me . . . means I'm only going to spend so much time studying a contract if I'm not being paid.
Posted by 42
Member since Apr 2012
3703 posts
Posted on 6/9/13 at 6:08 pm to
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Which . . .to me . . . means I'm only going to spend so much time studying a contract if I'm not being paid.


Which is why you are smarter than me.

Also, Me Want Pek! Keep Len.
Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
6868 posts
Posted on 6/9/13 at 6:08 pm to
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means I'm only going to spend so much time studying a contract if I'm not being paid.

Posted by 42
Member since Apr 2012
3703 posts
Posted on 6/9/13 at 6:30 pm to
Not learning about trade rules is perfectly understandable.

Spouting off about trading and not trying to learn the rules is not.

Nothing against you two.
Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
6868 posts
Posted on 6/9/13 at 6:36 pm to
oh i'll learn a bit but i'll do it over time. im better learn shite like this in conversation and situations. meaning i have to pay closer attention to the offseason.
Posted by 42
Member since Apr 2012
3703 posts
Posted on 6/9/13 at 6:44 pm to
Agreed. That is the best way. Hopefully we can work it enough to so that we stumble upon some good ways to make some of these things less murky.

Good thing is we have until 2024, at least.
Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
6868 posts
Posted on 6/9/13 at 6:54 pm to
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Good thing is we have until 2024, at least.

Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22751 posts
Posted on 6/9/13 at 7:31 pm to
Do y'all think Bosh could play alongside Davis? I believe there are many similarities between the two, but wonder if they could cause trouble for opposing teams with such similar unique skill sets.

Just wondering based on speculation of the Heat trying to get out from under Bosh's contract. The guy was legit in Toronto and I think much more valuable than the media is making him out to be at the moment.

What if we some how had a starting line up of

Cole/Rivers
Gordon
Webster (?)
Davis
Bosh

Just throwing this crazy hypothetical out there while waiting for free agency and the draft. I think Bosh could potentially complement Davis on the floor, and I think he could anchor the offense by himself also. The team would still be extremely small, but very athletic.

The team would have to focus on team defense and quick hands since they would lack bulk.
This post was edited on 6/9/13 at 7:39 pm
Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
6868 posts
Posted on 6/9/13 at 7:45 pm to
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Do y'all think Bosh could play alongside Davis?

f%&* that noise! AD is becoming what the heat want bosh to be. an all-star pf. plus bosh is too light in the arse.
Posted by Toula
504
Member since Dec 2006
35399 posts
Posted on 6/9/13 at 7:46 pm to
What's the difference between Ryan Anderson and Bosh?

ETA ..besides Bosh making 20 mil a year
This post was edited on 6/9/13 at 7:47 pm
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22751 posts
Posted on 6/9/13 at 7:50 pm to
I was just throwing around the idea dumb or not; however, I think Bosh is more athletic. I think he is probably better in the paint as a post player compared to Anderson. I feel Bosh could potentially aid in helping the offense flow more through the paint as Anderson sits more on the perimeter.
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49486 posts
Posted on 6/9/13 at 7:55 pm to
Bosh is still a better player, but that trade would take Anderson and all of our cap space. You'd have a decent shot at landing Pekovic with a max offer (let's say the Wolves ask for Lopez in exchange for not keeping him) while keeping Ryno, which would leave us with about the same amount of cap space as Ryno + cutting Lopez for Bosh would.

And all of that is assuming Miami would prefer Ryno to the Charlotte pick.
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