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Posted on 6/9/13 at 10:04 pm to
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 6/9/13 at 10:04 pm to
Maybe it's me with the wishful thinking then but the "Mata is not a Mourinho type player" makes no sense. Every manager would love to have a #10 like Mata. He's a little more creative, less dymanic version of Sneijder who had his best season ever under Mou.
Posted by svb
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Posted on 6/9/13 at 10:05 pm to
But I am sure you would love watching him more if he were far, far away from Liverpool
Posted by AZBayouBengal07
Metry
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Posted on 6/9/13 at 10:06 pm to
I really wish that was true, unfortunately with all the smoke there is likely to be a fire.

If they sell Mata or Luiz or god forbid both I'm going to have serious issues.
Posted by LSUBD6
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/9/13 at 10:06 pm to
I cant see any reason to sell our best player in Mata. I would hope that Mourinho can find a way to fit him into his system. having read the couple of pieces on weaintgotnohistory about the issue i would probably agree with the idea that these rumors may just be a lead up to a contract extension.
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
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Posted on 6/9/13 at 10:07 pm to
he's absolutely nothing like Sneijder.
Posted by Bho
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Posted on 6/9/13 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

I really wish that was true, unfortunately with all the smoke there is likely to be a fire.



So Chelsea have signed both Hulk and Cavani? Chelsea's beat writer implied today that Mourinho would be sacked for selling Mata.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/9/13 at 10:15 pm to
You are way off the mark with that comparison.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/9/13 at 10:46 pm to
Nah, I'm not saying they are exactly the same but he's a little #10 that can score goals from anywhere, great on set pieces, get the ball in the middle of the park and move the attack forward, and pick out passes to and from anywhere. He's not as strong or dynamic or as good in space as Sneijder but he's more creative and better in tight spaces and it makes no sense to say he can't fit into Mourinho's system. He is the kind of player that is a great fit for pretty much any system and even if he wasn't he's good enough you tweak the system to make it work.

I would never say never about anything but if we sell Mata I would be beyond shocked.
This post was edited on 6/9/13 at 10:49 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/9/13 at 11:23 pm to
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Neither is Oscar or Hazard,

what's wrong with my belgium buddy?
Posted by AZBayouBengal07
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Posted on 6/9/13 at 11:30 pm to
I understand your point but I've heard much more Mata , etc. being sold than I have either of them joining.

Rumors about players joining are a dime a dozen. Rumors of people being up for sale by their current team are often more credible.

If the club would come out and deny it I'd feel better albeit only slightly.
Posted by UPT
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Member since May 2009
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Posted on 6/10/13 at 1:34 am to
This is a ploy for a pay raise. All of his quotes indicate that he is happy at Chelsea and to be working with Mourinho. He's the best player on the team and isn't one of the higher paid players.

Michael Emenalo would have to ok this and I could never see that happening. Chelsea do not sell their best players.

quote:

"I don't know anything what has been said, they are rumours. Nobody from the club has told me anything. I'm not surprised though, it's silly season [re: transfers]. I'm calm, the club always transmitted confidence to me."


I highly doubt that Jose has already made his mind up to sell the clubs best player before even seeing him in training.

Pretty preposterous.
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
9963 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:42 am to
it seems like some of you aren't comprehending the difference between "may listen to offers for" and "OUT THE DOOR, GONNA BE SOLD!"

it's how things work now under FFP. you guys can't bring in two or three big signings and keep everyone you have. selling torres won't be enough because he won't get you any sort of fee in return.

the transfer market is a fluid situation. no one has said Mou has made up his mind to sell either Mata or Luiz.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28614 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 12:19 pm to
Plus it's Mourinho. There are two things to understand about him.

1. He is stubborn as frick, but he is a brilliant manager
2. No player on the team is bigger than Mou
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
9963 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 12:30 pm to
no kidding. "he'd never do that" is not something you say about someone who benched Iker Casillas in the prime of his career.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30814 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 12:37 pm to
I think TSO knows what kind of reaction that would bring from the fans and, unlike at Real Madrid, I think he cares what the Chelsea fans think of him. He loves them/us and they/we love him back.

This club has been divided pretty much since Jose left, outside of maybe Carlo's first season, and his return was the one thing that could bring it all back together. I just can't see him immediately fracturing that by shipping off Mata or Luiz.

Again I could be way off or just engaging in wishful thinking but that's how I see it.
This post was edited on 6/10/13 at 12:39 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

I think he cares what the Chelsea fans think of him. He loves them/us and they/we love him back.


Hahahaha.

Mourinho is a classic narcissist. He wants the adulation and needs the constant affirmation. He loves the fans because they love him; the relationship isn't equivocal.
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
9963 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

I think he cares what the Chelsea fans think of him. He loves them/us and they/we love him back.



..............
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30814 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 1:25 pm to
His relationship with Chelsea was completely different than it was with Inter and Madrid. He was clearly never really happy at either.

If he really cared what they thought/"wanted their adulation" at Madrid he wouldn't have benched Casillas.
This post was edited on 6/10/13 at 1:26 pm
Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

I think he cares what the Chelsea fans think of him.

Mourinho cares about one thing and one thing only: building the greatest resume in world football history.
This post was edited on 6/10/13 at 1:32 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

His relationship with Chelsea was completely different than it was with Inter and Madrid. He was clearly never really happy at either.


You can believe whatever you like if that helps you sleep at night. Also, he was pretty happy at Inter. He had an experienced squad that played exactly the way he wanted and an owner who would buy whoever he wanted. He left not because he was unhappy, but because the Madrid job is the biggest in world soccer.

If you listen to his press conferences, and read his comments, it's pretty clear he is a narcissist. He probably isn't so extreme on the spectrum that you could label his version a disorder, but his need to be admired is pretty severe. Chelsea fans give him the admiration so willingly that it's no surprise he returns to feed his ego, especially after his relative failure at Madrid, having been brought in to win the "Decima."
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