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Will Oladipo not work out for the Pelicans? UPDATE working out for Minny

Posted on 6/7/13 at 8:40 am
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 8:40 am
From an ESPN article on the Timberwolves wanting to move up and grab Oladipo.

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There's still a strong interest from the Wolves in moving up in the June 27 NBA draft to select Indiana guard Victor Oladipo. According to sources, the Wolves have spoken to Oladipo's camp. No workout has been set up, because Oladipo's representatives need sufficient evidence that the Wolves can move up to Orlando's spot at No. 2, Washington's spot at No. 3 or Charlotte's spot at No. 4.


It looks like Oladipo's agent won't allow him to be perceived as anything less than a top 4 pick. I wonder if that means he won't work out for the Pelicans?
This post was edited on 6/13/13 at 12:34 pm
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 8:42 am to
Hopefully they trade with Washington and Porter falls to us.
Posted by corndeaux
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 9:09 am to
Weird.

Is it common for guys to do that? Or does he just not want to play in Minnesota?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 9:16 am to
It's pretty common for agents to refuse workouts that make a player look like he has the potential to fall, I just didn't think 4 would be the cutoff that seems pretty high. Because the flip side of that is that if he does fall he may fall further than he should have because you refused to let teams like the Pelicans work him out.
This post was edited on 6/7/13 at 9:18 am
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 9:17 am to
He worked out with the Suns the other day and they pick at 5, so it sounds like his agent won't let him work out with the Wolves until they show they can move up from 9 to possibly grab him.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 9:21 am to
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Will Oladipo not work out for the Pelicans?He worked out with the Suns the other day and they pick at 5, so it sounds like his agent won't let him work out with the Wolves until they show they can move up from 9 to possibly grab him.
I wonder if, reading between the lines, the Suns promised him at 5.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 9:23 am to
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I wonder if, reading between the lines, the Suns promised him at 5.



They may not have, but his agent may want to give the impression that he was promised.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 9:47 am to
Not saying you're wrong, but that just seems strange.

Especially on the team's side. Havent they scouted and interviewed every player they like at this point?

Of the many highlights of David Kahn's amazing exit interview in Minnesota, one of my favorites was his passing on Steph Curry to take Flynn because Curry didn't do an individual workout for them.
Posted by BayouFann
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 2:49 pm to
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It looks like Oladipo's agent won't allow him to be perceived as anything less than a top 4 pick.

geno smith jealous!
Posted by supe12sta12z
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

I wonder if, reading between the lines, the Suns promised him at 5


Yea, if he has a promise from a team like Phoenix, his agent won't allow him to workout with anyone after Phoenix.
Posted by ssgtiger
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 2:55 pm to
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Of the many highlights of David Kahn's amazing exit interview in Minnesota, one of my favorites was his passing on Steph Curry to take Flynn because Curry didn't do an individual workout for them.


Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

Weird.

Is it common for guys to do that? Or does he just not want to play in Minnesota?



Very very common. Agents play the game to make it "seem" like their guy should go in a certain range.
Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

Hopefully they trade with Washington and Porter falls to us

!
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 3:01 pm to
quote:


Will Oladipo not work out for the Pelicans?


i thought his name was victor?
Posted by NOLApelicans23
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 5:54 pm to
It's a risky move if in fact he doesn't have a promise because although it creates this "perception of top 5 value," if he falls, he could fall a decent amount if the teams in the middle or back end of the lottery are hesitant to draft a kid they didn't personally bring in.
Posted by irvchilichill1
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:39 pm to
I understand the concern of his agent not letting him workout for teams who draft over #5 spot, but let's be honest Olidapo is a top #5 player in a weak draft such as this one. So, even if he slipped past #5, he would not slide out of top 6-8 spot regardless if q team worked him out or not. If Olidapo is on the board at #6 for the Hornets, then that quite possibly means guys like Burke, Len, and maybe even Zeller have gone ahead for whatever reason. So if Olidapo is on the board we take him, unless we take MCCollum period. his agent knows the field and knows his value. They are shooting for the top pick if possible, so why work out for teams lowering than top 5. Unnecessary.
Posted by NOLApelicans23
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 11:02 pm to
There are reasons that teams hold these workouts. If it was all based on college tape and combine testing, why would teams go through the trouble. It's important for teams to get an intense and personal look at these young inexperienced kids. It's important to see how a player carries himself around your organization and how he reacts to your coaches. I read recently that Dell and Monty have, in the past, shown preferences to sticking with what they know and trying to avoid uncertainty, and it's hard to believe that there aren't other teams with front office personal that behave the same way.
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
5870 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 12:27 pm to
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The Timberwolves will sit down with Victor Oladipo on Friday, a source tells 1500 ESPN.


So does this mean Flip has a deal in place already because last week Dipo's agent wouldn't meet with the Wolves until they knew they could move up?
This post was edited on 6/13/13 at 12:33 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61420 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 12:30 pm to
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deal in place


That does seem to imply it. There have been lots of rumors about Washington trading their pick and John Wall said he wanted a pick and pop big. Derrick Williams and #9 for #3 makes a lot of sense.
This post was edited on 6/13/13 at 12:31 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94673 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 12:35 pm to
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That does seem to imply it. There have been lots of rumors about Washington trading their pick and John Wall said he wanted a pick and pop big. Derrick Williams and #9 for #3 makes a lot of sense.


What else would the Wizards be giving up on that deal? They have to move at least $3-4m in salary to take on Williams.


That would imply some combination of Vesely, Singleton, and Seraphim unless Minny wants Ariza for some reason.
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