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Posted on 6/6/13 at 8:26 pm
Posted by Furbs311
South Carolina
Member since Oct 2005
516 posts
Posted on 6/6/13 at 8:26 pm
Wife and I moved due to a new job for me at the end of last year. Decided to rent our old house.

Looking to buy in our new area, but since we dont have 20% down, we are being told we should go the FHA route. Should we avoid this? On the one hand I HATE the thought of paying PMI, but I HATE paying rent as well..feel like I'm throwing money down the tubes. No other debt besides our old house.
Posted by JonTheTigerFan
Central, LA
Member since Nov 2003
6783 posts
Posted on 6/6/13 at 8:41 pm to
If you have good or even decent credit, you can get a conventional loan with less than 20% down.
Posted by Furbs311
South Carolina
Member since Oct 2005
516 posts
Posted on 6/6/13 at 8:55 pm to
Thats what I thought. Wife and I both have great credit. Though when I say less than 20% down, I mean probably 5% down.
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Member since Oct 2007
25363 posts
Posted on 6/6/13 at 9:05 pm to
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Thats what I thought. Wife and I both have great credit. Though when I say less than 20% down, I mean probably 5% down.


Then do a 95/5 Conventional with upfront PMI
Posted by BigAppleTiger
New York City
Member since Dec 2008
10372 posts
Posted on 6/6/13 at 11:00 pm to
Avoid FHA loan if you hate PMI, because as of last month you can never get rid of it. It becomes a permanent fixture of the loan. You would have to refinance to get rid of it. Go conventional.
Posted by JonTheTigerFan
Central, LA
Member since Nov 2003
6783 posts
Posted on 6/6/13 at 11:59 pm to
quote:

Then do a 95/5 Conventional with upfront PMI
Posted by Furbs311
South Carolina
Member since Oct 2005
516 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 6:47 am to
Ok. I might have to switch mortgage brokers then (or maybe do something like quicken loans?} cause this guy is telling me theres no way I can get a conventional loan with that little down, no matter how good my credit is
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25363 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 6:59 am to
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Ok. I might have to switch mortgage brokers then (or maybe do something like quicken loans?} cause this guy is telling me theres no way I can get a conventional loan with that little down, no matter how good my credit is


Then ask him for his NMLS# and report him, because maybe he doesn't offer a 95/5 conventional package but they are probably the most common loan program going for 1st time buyers. To say there's no way it can be done is a lie. I would cut all ties with this individual immediately.

I would bet 90% or more of all local lending institutions do a 95/5 Conventional Loan. Make sure you pay PMI upfront
This post was edited on 6/7/13 at 7:02 am
Posted by ds1tiger
Closer than you think
Member since Apr 2006
359 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 7:22 am to
5% down conventional is definitely your loan.
Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
17107 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 7:51 am to
quote:

Ok. I might have to switch mortgage brokers then (or maybe do something like quicken loans?} cause this guy is telling me theres no way I can get a conventional loan with that little down, no matter how good my credit is


Yea I would say switch mortgage companies. Some don't want to do the 95/5.
Posted by Furbs311
South Carolina
Member since Oct 2005
516 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 11:32 am to
Does it matter that I'm not a first time buyer? We own another house (the one we moved from) and have it rented out.
Posted by CQQ
Member since Feb 2006
17048 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 11:55 am to
quote:

Then do a 95/5 Conventional with upfront PMI


Does this basically mean 5% down, finance the rest? How much are you having to come up with total, including the 5%, closing costs, and PMI because this is definitely something I will be considering.
Posted by WhoGeaux
Member since Apr 2011
4415 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 12:43 pm to
You can do 3 or 5% down and pay your pmi through a slightly higher interest rate. With that scenario you only have to bring down payment plus closing cost to the table... No additional for pmi. I recently did 3% down at 4.25 with no pmi. Could've gotten 4 on the interest rate if I would've put 5% down.
Posted by Furbs311
South Carolina
Member since Oct 2005
516 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 5:42 pm to
So how is paying pmi through a higher interest rate better than the fha with a lower rate?
Posted by DaphneTigah
Flying under the radar.
Member since Dec 2007
4974 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 5:44 pm to
Don't the rules change when u
you are buying your second home as the OP stated? I'm in the same situation and have been told by a Wells Fargo lender that we have to put 20 percent down.
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25363 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 6:13 pm to
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Does it matter that I'm not a first time buyer? We own another house (the one we moved from) and have it rented out.


No.

Price it out over the life of loan with fees and PMI. Don't be fooled by the shiny object which is lower interest rate. That rate is very expensive
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10430 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 8:59 pm to
Are you buying in a RD eligible area? LINK
Posted by Furbs311
South Carolina
Member since Oct 2005
516 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 7:30 am to
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Are you buying in a RD eligible area?


A few houses we are looking in apparently are. What does this mean?
Posted by WhoGeaux
Member since Apr 2011
4415 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 9:05 am to
Ran the numbers and the cost of pmi was a substantial net add when compared to just taking a .375 increase on interest rate. Make sense?
Posted by thibtigerfan
Thibodaux
Member since Aug 2006
2460 posts
Posted on 6/9/13 at 12:57 pm to
5% down conventional is the product you are looking for
This post was edited on 6/9/13 at 12:57 pm
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