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"Stanford student gaining cult status for rethinking NBA philosophy"
Posted on 6/6/13 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 6/6/13 at 2:49 pm
Very interesting article regarding NBA analytics and how a 23 yr old is "re-thinking" how the game of basketball should be played:
SIAP LINK
(link includes video presentation)
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Alagappan argues that basketball's traditional five positions are as outmoded as James Naismith's peach basket, insisting instead that there are at least 10 distinct positions.
And he has the topological data analysis to prove it.
"The positions are kind of the alphabet by which everything around basketball revolves," Alagappan said. "If we can redefine the alphabet in terms of these 10 or 13 positions, then we can hopefully
change all of the strategy that the game is built on."
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Forbes magazine selected Alagappan to its "30 Under 30" list of influential sports industry figures last year, putting him with LeBron James, Usain Bolt and Sidney Crosby. Alagappan's work has also been dissected in The New York Times, ESPN, The Wall Street Journal, Wired and (in a negative review) Slate.
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Two NBA teams have secured a formal partnership to hear more: the defending champion Miami Heat and the Portland Trail Blazers. During these playoffs, a representative from the Heat checks in with Alagappan before each series to help compile a data-oriented scouting report.
SIAP LINK
(link includes video presentation)
Posted on 6/6/13 at 2:56 pm to onmymedicalgrind
I just learned how to bookmark
This post was edited on 6/6/13 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 6/6/13 at 2:58 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Posting to read later
If only we had a bookmark feature around here...
Posted on 6/6/13 at 2:59 pm to onmymedicalgrind
very interesting. thanks for sharing
Posted on 6/6/13 at 3:01 pm to onmymedicalgrind
one of the better posts on here in awhile. Great read.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 3:02 pm to onmymedicalgrind
Here he is giving a TED talk LINK
ETA: Brandon Bass and Glen Davis get a shoutout.
ETA: Brandon Bass and Glen Davis get a shoutout.
This post was edited on 6/6/13 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 6/6/13 at 3:03 pm to Golfer
If only you understood mobile doesn't have a bookmark feature... around here.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 3:04 pm to onmymedicalgrind
The thinking for a long time has been that the 5 positions are dead.
Very good read.
Very good read.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 3:05 pm to Jumbeauxlaya
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If only you understood mobile doesn't have a bookmark feature... around here.
yeah it does
click options
Posted on 6/6/13 at 3:05 pm to Jumbeauxlaya
Dis old news but mayne dat dude goin jonah hill up in hur
Posted on 6/6/13 at 3:06 pm to Jim Rockford
this the same guy who wrote the Sloan Sports Conference piece last year. Has been referenced around here for a while. Good article.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 3:06 pm to Clemens
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Dis old news
Okay i thought so. I was like I know ive read this stuff before
Posted on 6/6/13 at 3:08 pm to Jumbeauxlaya
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If only you understood mobile doesn't have a bookmark feature... around here.
Uh, yes it does.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 3:12 pm to onmymedicalgrind
Wayyyy overthinking it.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 3:17 pm to DollaChoppa
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Wayyyy overthinking it.
Meh. Heat don't seem to think so.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 3:18 pm to onmymedicalgrind
Doesn't seem like a very new concept minus the underlying statistical analysis.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 3:21 pm to mattz1122
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Doesn't seem like a very new concept minus the underlying statistical analysis.
The underlying statistical analysis is what gives it more weight and credence.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 3:22 pm to mattz1122
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Doesn't seem like a very new concept minus the underlying statistical analysis.
I think me and you are on Slate's side of the argument. He's trying to say teams don't understand what their players do best and work accordingly? That coaches can't recognize a defense and modify the calls?
I think his data and scatter charts merely enhance what team management should already know. I'm always for using more data.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 3:24 pm to Fun Bunch
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The thinking for a long time has been that the 5 positions are dead.
I've also thought for some time that the positions in basketball were stupid.
But I also think adding five more positions is equally stupid. Instead of trying to box players into labels that don't make sense, let's make up labels that are more narrowly defined and try to box players into those designations instead.
Now I'm sure this kid is very bright. But I think his idea is silly.
There is no need for position designations in basketball. They serve no purpose. Get rid of them altogether. And I will never ever have to hear somebody say that Tim Duncan is the best power forward of all time even though he doesn't even fricking play power forward. He plays center.
But, really, he just plays basketball. Position designations are more useless than a poop-flavored lollipop.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 3:28 pm to swamie
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He's trying to say teams don't understand what their players do best and work accordingly?
And that good teams do understand it (Mavs in 2011) and bad teams don't (T-Wolves). It's just a new way to tell people what they already know.
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