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ChineseBandit58
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That same theme carries on today with Obama in all that going on now in his second term.


I loath that bastard and everything he stands for and my loathing extends to those who knowingly support him.

I pity the poor vulnerable idiots who just don't know any better - but my loathing of their 'masters' is just as intense as it is for loathing past 'slave masters.'

Nobody with a working intellect can morally support this president and his agenda to 'fundamentally change' this nation - away from its founding ideals and celebration of individual rights/responsibilities.

BTW - what the hell are you doing still up??






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Not able to sleep because of the very stuff we are discussing because I have been one of the targets of these evil fricks that are doing a lot more evil than what most even know and I will one day share. A few on here know some of what I have had to contend with and this shite started about 5 years ago. Their intimidation tactics make the very people you expect to defend you to disappear and even turn on you because they want to protect themselves. Sadly, they are only hurting themselves even more and sin against the very God they claim to worship and serve.

I know I did what is Right, Just and Truthful. It has come at a great price personally but hey, fools today are just like fools in the Bible. Man is the same today as is was 2,000 years ago and the wisdom of those that lived before us is timeless no matter how many fools claim it isn't.



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ChineseBandit58
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I have been one of the targets of these evil fricks that are doing a lot more evil than what most even know and I will one day share.

Damn that sucks.

These bastards are completely fricking this country over and it pisses me off to know that so many are willingly abetting them in 'fundamentally changing' this wonderful republic into a tyranny.

What really pisses me off is that the government is now targeting 'good people' and supporting 'bad people' - it baffles me.






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I posted basically the same thought last night. Claiming your innocence of any and all wrongdoing, and then pleading the Fifth is just dumb as hell. This being done by a lawyer with "well paid" legal help sitting behind her. Someone in that little paper trail is challenging the box of rocks.

ETA should be in your other thread.



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This isn't something that started overnight and government is just one of the places. The stuff that these tyrants are doing in our nations churches and our charities not reported at all and has been twisted into being called "justice" when it is anything but justice or truth. Similar thing happened in Germany in the early 20th century but lefties don't spout the truth about what took place but believe what they have been told by others. May God have mercy on our nation because what these self-righteous doers of evil that claim they are seeking justice, or should I say "social justice" are liars that have elevated themselves as being wiser than all those that came before them in Christendom and if you do not agree with them, you are (fill in the names that the lefy uses to villify) and are not to be tolerated. They have done this for years and did disobeyed what they vowed they would uphold and would not divide, claiming that they are working for "justice and inclusion" and if you stand against them, they first use horrific intimidating tactics . I didn't bow.

It is laughable to me when I see some of the posts that question me and accuse me of being when they are actually so blind to truth and not the talking points and lies they have been told and believe. These people are exactly like the Nazis and Communist that they get so upset with anyone stating such and villify (like the Nazis and Communists) that they get upset for stating the truth.

That's not even difficult to contend with. What has been most trying are those that you trust turn from truth to protect themselves and they can't take the heat of what little they faced.

We are no longer the republic that you and I loved but are a tyranny. Political tyrants come to power when every level of society is taken over within. Mission accomplished by those workers of tyranny.






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ChineseBandit58
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Claiming your innocence of any and all wrongdoing, and then pleading the Fifth is just dumb as hell.

I am proudly a non-lawyer and have absolutely no legal training.

But, when I saw that, I said "WTF!!! - you can't do that!!!!!"

At the very LEAST they should be allowed to go down the IRS statues one by one and ask if she ever did this or that relative to them - she just claimed, under oath, that she 'never violated any statute of the code.'

She didn't say "I don't believe" I violated any law or statute. So she should at least be questioned on her 'interpretation' of the laws she swears she didn't violate vis-a-vis the admitted facts of the matter.

This is a mockery of the fifth amendment - and anyone who attempts to justify it under the quise of 'protecting the innocent' is willingly evil.






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ChineseBandit58
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We are no longer the republic that you and I loved but are a tyranny.

I agree - this realization has taken all the comfort out of my latter years.

I will not live to see the full fruition of this slide into misery and tyranny that is coming our way, but I am going this weekend to celebrate the third birthday of my youngest great-grandchild. I weep him and the world he will have to grow on in.

My deepest fear is that it will become the 'new normal' that everyone will just subjugate themselves to the political tyranny to avoid governmental persecution - and that he may even become one of the 'concentration camp guards' because he will not know any better.

Certainly HIS children will have no chance for a free life of independent liberty outside the oppressive control of the government.






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But I agree--if she's going to take the 5th, she needs to be fired.



Should be fired immediately. A federal employee that won't answer to federal officials about her role in wrong doing in her job. This shouldn't even be an issue.






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cwill
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If he were so worried about rights he would want to know why this government worker was targeting citizens for not thinking like her and for following through on the request of dems like Schumer, Pelosi and others that used the power of their office and falsely accused and villified citizens that disagreed with them.


I am and I wanted them prosecuted, however, I don't want to undermine our rights to accomplish that end.

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Obama had fundraisers and is friends with domestic terrorists and criminals that openly expressed how their only regret is that they didn't do more but conservatives like myself were labeled racist for mentioning this because "it happened so long ago in before Obama was born so what difference did it make." That same theme carries on today with Obama in all that going on now in his second term.


Then the crazy victim non-sequitur.






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cwill
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Last I checked, I'm not a government official or politician. I haven't proposed gun control legislation that I, the law abiding citizen, must go through a background check for the second amendment rights. You sit at your computer making accusing me of wrongdoings when I have literally not broken the law or proposed laws to limit rights.


I never said you had actually done anything...only that your proposal is terrible and makes you no better than those you decry.






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cwill
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The fifth amendment was written so that our government could not beat a confession out of a person, innocent or not.


Sure, you can't be compelled to testify against yourself.

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It was not written so that a person gets to avoid being fired for malfeasance in office.


Of course not...but that's up to the employer and when the employer is the government, it is restrained from retribution when someone refuses to testify...a refusal to testify against yourself cannot be used as evidence of guilt...if that were the case the 5th would be completely undermined and meaningless.

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If a government worker 'takes the fifth' to avoid
admitting she screwed up, she should be fired post haste. If criminality is involved - which her 'taking the fifth' seems to imply - then charges should be brought and she should be prosecuted.


See above this is exactly what I'm talking about -there is no 5th if you permit government to do this.







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cwill
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We are no longer the republic that you and I loved but are a tyranny.


Truth be known, it's simply the wrong kind of tyranny to people such as yourself.






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The solution is not MORE laws


This^^

Many are getting a kick out of this woman being subjected to the same state power that threatens to whip any of us every day.

Retaliation is natural and understandable but it is not a solution. It does not get to the root of the problem.

The solution is to diminish state power so that agencies like the IRS would never have been able to do this in the first place.






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