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re: New Epic Trailer for Man of Steel

Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:09 pm to
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:09 pm to
OH MY FRICKING GOD!!!!!!!!!!

I'm fricking panting with excitement!!!! I'm feeling like really gay for this movie!!!!

I can't fricking wait to plant my arse at the midnight showing on June 13!!!!

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:13 pm to
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Hopefully he addresses my favorite Superman theme of 'how much can Superman help the world before he hurts them through their dependency on him' theme.



I'd say save that for the sequel. They should not trust him in the first film, but win it over by the end. Then make a few years pass, Luthor is president and is pointing out that Superman is merely causing an escalation in WMD production and genetic engineering for someone to take him on.

Then comes a bad guy that is even more powerful than Superman (Earth based, please), and destroys Superman from within, and rips the planet apart by starting WWIII. Sort of like the Joker, he would put Superman in a no win scenario that would use his boy scout tendancies against him, and then the populace would turn on him when Superman couldn't save them due to the choice he's given. Something similar to Spider-Man 2 meets TDK meets Watchmen.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:22 pm to
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he's not GOAT in ... abrams level
Abrams? What the hell?
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27871 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:23 pm to
Just to clear this up, Goyer and Chris Nolan wrote the film and then handed it over to Zach Snyder. According to Emma Thomas, he did nothing else.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:25 pm to
I hate when people talk about the realism of Nolan's batman. There is nothing practical about the principle characters as far as what they do.

Nolan made an effort to set them in a real world and have the environment and the inhabitants respond and react in a real way.

Looks like they applied that to superman. Nothing real about it, but the environmental response seems to be genuine (I.e. treating it as a first contact story)
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:26 pm to
I want to believe, but I still have my doubts.
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27104 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:27 pm to
While I am a fan of Bryan Singer's work.

This film is beginning to make his Superman look like an ABC Family made for television movie.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
71994 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:27 pm to
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Nolan made an effort to set them in a real world and have the environment and the inhabitants respond and react in a real way.
Until the 3rd film where he completely jumped the shark.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:28 pm to
To the contrary, I feel like the inhabitants responded appropriately to an unrealistic or impractical stimuli.

Gotham was under siege and it felt like that. I'm glad they didn't neglect it though I do feel the story was a little too much
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:31 pm to
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Goyer and Chris Nolan wrote the film and then handed it over to Zach Snyder.


This is great news.

It's time to FAAAAAAAAAAAP.

quote:

While I am a fan of Bryan Singer's work.

This film is beginning to make his Superman look like an ABC Family made for television movie.


And Returns for all it's faults did have a couple gruesome scenes so put that into a point of view towards this movie.
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:31 pm to
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I hate when people talk about the realism of Nolan's batman. There is nothing practical about the principle characters as far as what they do.


I think most people have the previous batman movies in mind when they refer to the realism of Nolan's movies.

Batman forever had a mind sucking cable box for crying out loud.

I agree that Nolan's movies were still rooted in fantasy not reality but they still maintained a closer feel to the real world then any other comic book movie.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:32 pm to
Exactly, that's why I don't get the complaints "that's not realistic"

It's not real, it's not as impractical
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27104 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:35 pm to
I think the Nolan films just gave us a more realistic Gotham City and that was all. Let's not forget that 1 hour into Batman Begins we were introduced to the instant water vaporizing super villain death machine.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:36 pm to
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I hate when people talk about the realism of Nolan's batman.
I'll say this: The Dark Knight trilogy are the most realistic superhero movies I've ever seen. Whatever that's worth.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:37 pm to
The most but not totally
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:37 pm to
Exactly what I'm saying. Gotham is real, the character are not
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:37 pm to
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the instant water vaporizing super villain death machine
It was a microwave emitter. Those exist IRL.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:38 pm to
Fair enough.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:39 pm to
I love the Nolan trilogy. They are the definitive version of batman as far as movies are concerned
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27104 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:47 pm to
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I love the Nolan trilogy. They are the definitive version of batman as far as movies are concerned


While I can see why people would say this, it's hard not to think about what poster Michael T. Tiger said after this came out.

Bruce Wayne goes off and trains for seven years to be the ultimate detective, fighting machine. He comes back to Gotham City and defeats Ra's Al Ghul in a matter of weeks. As soon as he is finished doing that, Lt. Jim Gordon hips him to The Joker, he says he'll look into it. In Nolan's universe, it then takes TWO years for Batman to capture the Scarecrow and he's so worried about the mob that only now, when the mob turns to the Joker, is he really ready to do anything about it. In what again seems like no more than a couple of weeks, he puts down the mob, the Joker, and Two-Face, but loses what he believes to be the love of his life in the process and hangs up the cape and cowl as an outlaw, hated and despised. Eight years later, Batman returns to defeat Bane. This process takes about five or six months. Then he retires again.

So, for all of his training and his sworn duty to fight the criminal element in all manner to avenge the loss of his father and mother, Bruce put the cowl on for just a little over two and a half years total and ran away when the going got tough?


And while it may seem like comic book nitpicking, when it is laid out like that, it was hard to think about how great Nolan's Bruce Wayne really was. Although it would probably be fair to say that in a realistic world, one man couldn't possibly do this job for very long.
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