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re: Day 1 draft combine complete. Updated with measurements 5/17
Posted on 5/15/13 at 4:04 pm to Fun Bunch
Posted on 5/15/13 at 4:04 pm to Fun Bunch
Im interested in what Oladipo measures in at. He's listed at 6'5". I think he's closer to 6'3". I think that officially ends any talk of him at SF.
Shabazz is somewhat interesting to me too. I think there's a slight chance he pulls a Harrison Barnes and shows up at the combine with athleticism that he never showed in college.
I'll be watching Mccollum too.
As much as i like Bennett, we've just seen tweeners fail over and over and over. Unless the guy is Larry Johnson, I don't see how he ends up any different than Derrick Williams or Beasley
Im already sold on Burke and Porter. They're 2 and 3 on my wishlist behind Mclemore.
Shabazz is somewhat interesting to me too. I think there's a slight chance he pulls a Harrison Barnes and shows up at the combine with athleticism that he never showed in college.
I'll be watching Mccollum too.
As much as i like Bennett, we've just seen tweeners fail over and over and over. Unless the guy is Larry Johnson, I don't see how he ends up any different than Derrick Williams or Beasley
Im already sold on Burke and Porter. They're 2 and 3 on my wishlist behind Mclemore.
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Posted on 5/15/13 at 4:06 pm to Jester
Swing and a miss eh? Cp3 listed at 190, rose 190, felton 195, d will almost 210. He's light for his frame. You think he has weight to cut? Im saying he's not injured or suddenly going to gain quickness. You haven't spoken about any of the large flaws I mentioned, just nitpicked and called me incorrect basically.
Posted on 5/15/13 at 4:20 pm to eyeran
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Shabazz is somewhat interesting to me too. I think there's a slight chance he pulls a Harrison Barnes and shows up at the combine with athleticism that he never showed in college.
That's actually a good comparison. Seeing Barnes do great for the Warriors in the playoffs made me think back to last year when a lot of people here weren't really high on him. Seems like he had similar strengths and weaknesses to Shabazz coming out of college IIRC
Posted on 5/15/13 at 4:20 pm to MrBlue105
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Swing and a miss eh? Cp3 listed at 190, rose 190, felton 195, d will almost 210. He's light for his frame. You think he has weight to cut? Im saying he's not injured or suddenly going to gain quickness. You haven't spoken about any of the large flaws I mentioned, just nitpicked and called me incorrect basically.
Anthony Davis was light for his frame coming out of college too
Posted on 5/15/13 at 4:26 pm to Cap Crunch
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That's actually a good comparison.
From a distance Barnes and Shabazz seem very similar. Previously thought to be top picks that fell because of both attitude issues and not becoming the players people thought they would be. Basically both were thought to be superstars in the making but they may be better suited to quasi All Star role player.
Posted on 5/15/13 at 4:34 pm to TigerinATL
Barnes looked to me like he had all the tools, but was really raw and needed another year to develop.
He has come on strong lately. Mark Jackson has done a great job.
Haven't watched too much of Shabazz. My buddy at work loves him.
He has come on strong lately. Mark Jackson has done a great job.
Haven't watched too much of Shabazz. My buddy at work loves him.
This post was edited on 5/15/13 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 5/15/13 at 7:00 pm to Jester
That's just one concern I had, not a big deal, but I think anyone will be able to back him down and abuse him say on a fast break. Let's forget about it. Im just looking forward to him being 5'10.75" lol
Posted on 5/15/13 at 7:03 pm to MrBlue105
Curry is 6'3" 185 lbs.
That being said, this draft just sucks to be at the top of.
That being said, this draft just sucks to be at the top of.
Posted on 5/15/13 at 7:07 pm to MrBlue105
I'm trying to follow you, but how do you back someone down on a fast break?
Posted on 5/15/13 at 7:17 pm to Gtothemoney
Say an opposing pf is running the floor or somehow at our basket and he gets a pass before our pf can gwt on him. On offense, backcourt players are closest to our basket usually. This is just one situation, but any given game defensive rotations happen with plays/screens being made.
If we have burke and gordon next season we'll probably also have an undersized free agent sf or darius miller or xavier whom are also undersized. We'd get murdered on the perimeter. burke would just be an extra defensive liability. I like rivers at the 1 if he can improve, so teams like okc don't rape us. Then I'd like a physical sf or C so we can be solid inside. i don't want to continue to be soft soft soft.
If we have burke and gordon next season we'll probably also have an undersized free agent sf or darius miller or xavier whom are also undersized. We'd get murdered on the perimeter. burke would just be an extra defensive liability. I like rivers at the 1 if he can improve, so teams like okc don't rape us. Then I'd like a physical sf or C so we can be solid inside. i don't want to continue to be soft soft soft.
Posted on 5/15/13 at 7:24 pm to MrBlue105
Sorry bud. I'm not getting what you're putting down in your scenario. I don't think we would have to worry about him getting backed down on a fast break. Maybe in a set defense, but no fast break.
Posted on 5/15/13 at 7:30 pm to Gtothemoney
Either way, he'd just make us extremely small. I gotta think we're going either sf or c or bennett if we talk to him and he's down to play sf. If we go with burke then we will be relying on a lot of offseason trading/signings none of which are guaranteed.
Posted on 5/15/13 at 11:05 pm to MrBlue105
It doesn't matter if Bennett is "down" to play SF. He needs to be a competent NBA SF. I just don't see it. He is a 6'7" tweener that is considered too slow to guard the 3 at the NBA level. I just don't see how he improves our roster.
Posted on 5/15/13 at 11:12 pm to Jester
Looks like Shabazz is actually participating in all the drills tomorrow. Props to him. By far the highest profile player actually doing the drills.
Lillard did the same thing last year and looked great. Basically cemented him not getting past Portland.
I think these pre draft workouts will help his stock a lot. He's a knockdown catch and shot guy which is basically what these drills are.
Lillard did the same thing last year and looked great. Basically cemented him not getting past Portland.
I think these pre draft workouts will help his stock a lot. He's a knockdown catch and shot guy which is basically what these drills are.
Posted on 5/15/13 at 11:49 pm to eyeran
Are we getting back on the shabus 
? Forgetting about his last season so soon?
Bennett is physical and intimidating I think he can at least have as good of defense as melo this season. I think he's got better ball handling than porter and we can at times play davis at 5. There are good times to do that. I also think he is BPA. Dude can score at will which is something we need. Of course he'd make us better. He was injured some this season and overweight a bit. He emerged as a star with not much conditioning it seems. I see his foot speed improving. We could also play some zoneish defense with ad helping if an opposing sf gets inside. there are some concerns but i see too many positives, I can overlook them.
Eta: he was quicker than college 4s and is very versatile. He played 4 in college because he had their size and a speed advantage. Just because he's a strong physicsl guy doesn't mean he can't play sf. His defense wasn't terrible in college and it probably could have been good if he was more interested in it. He's so talented he didn't need to play d hard tocbe a top prospect.
? Forgetting about his last season so soon? Bennett is physical and intimidating I think he can at least have as good of defense as melo this season. I think he's got better ball handling than porter and we can at times play davis at 5. There are good times to do that. I also think he is BPA. Dude can score at will which is something we need. Of course he'd make us better. He was injured some this season and overweight a bit. He emerged as a star with not much conditioning it seems. I see his foot speed improving. We could also play some zoneish defense with ad helping if an opposing sf gets inside. there are some concerns but i see too many positives, I can overlook them.
Eta: he was quicker than college 4s and is very versatile. He played 4 in college because he had their size and a speed advantage. Just because he's a strong physicsl guy doesn't mean he can't play sf. His defense wasn't terrible in college and it probably could have been good if he was more interested in it. He's so talented he didn't need to play d hard tocbe a top prospect.
This post was edited on 5/16/13 at 12:01 am
Posted on 5/16/13 at 12:11 am to Jester
Posted on 5/16/13 at 7:29 am to MrBlue105
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Bennett is physical and intimidating I think he can at least have as good of defense as melo this season.
Melo is a poor defender without a position in the NBA. I don't see your point. And if you dare compare any other part of their game, I'm going to throw a handful of feces at you.
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he was quicker than college 4s and is very versatile
And college 4s are much smaller than NBA 4s. College 4s are less athletic than NBA 4s. Plus, we have 4s. If he is a 4 at the next level, you absolutely do not draft him.
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Just because he's a strong physicsl guy doesn't mean he can't play sf.
No, but he's not Lebron. He doesn't have the lateral quickness to guard NBA 3s. Basically, I think his ceiling is a Carl Landry/Brandon Bass type. Solid role player, but inherently limited.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 7:30 am to MrBlue105
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Also dudes faceup offensive game reminds me more of a sf than pf
Doesn't matter if he can't defend the 3.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 7:54 am to Jester
Bennett recently had a torn labrum that had to be surgically repaired.
This draft keeps finding ways to prove that it can, indeed, suck harder.
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Bennett will miss all NBA pre-draft workouts, the NBA draft combine and summer league, Schwartz said.
This draft keeps finding ways to prove that it can, indeed, suck harder.
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