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Getting approved for a loan and working full commission job

Posted on 5/15/13 at 12:33 pm
Posted by King of New Orleans
In front of The Hungry Tiger
Member since Jul 2011
9946 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 12:33 pm
Im going to be going into a sales position that is full commission soon with my company. there is good money to be made but it leaves me with no base salary for a lender to do an approval with.

is this the norm?
Posted by OldSouth
Folsom, LA
Member since Oct 2011
10940 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 12:37 pm to
They will just want to see pay stubs that's all.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35470 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 12:38 pm to
Without a history of earnings in the job (2 years) you are FUBAR with a conventional lender. They aren't going to touch it. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it's going to be treated the same as if you were a self-employed borrower. No history, no money.
Posted by iknowmorethanyou
Paydirt
Member since Jul 2007
6545 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 1:12 pm to
This is correct.
Posted by King of New Orleans
In front of The Hungry Tiger
Member since Jul 2011
9946 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 1:20 pm to
so after 2 years of earnings to show commission, they can work with you, correct?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69890 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

so after 2 years of earnings to show commission, they can work with you, correct?


Pretty much. You can also show them your 1099 since your income will generally fluctuate month to month.
Posted by OldSouth
Folsom, LA
Member since Oct 2011
10940 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

so after 2 years of earnings to show commission, they can work with you, correct?


Wait, you made it sound like you've been with this company for a while and are just changing jobs.

Why can't he show them the last 2 years when he was salaried?
Posted by ds1tiger
Closer than you think
Member since Apr 2006
359 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 1:59 pm to
Because he is full commission now. That guaranteed salary has no bearing on 100% commission income.
Posted by OldSouth
Folsom, LA
Member since Oct 2011
10940 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

Because he is full commission now. That guaranteed salary has no bearing on 100% commission income.



Yeah, I get that, but he isn't being asked for proof of FUTURE earnings right?
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5843 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 2:22 pm to
you cant show proof of future earnings..you will have to wait 2 years that way they can average you income and they will only take 75% of that income because your full commision..i know it stinks but welcome to my world of fannie underwriting..
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35470 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

Yeah, I get that, but he isn't being asked for proof of FUTURE earnings right?


Underwriters are literally going to treat it like a new job with no earnings history and no way to determine future earnings.
Posted by Evolve
Texas
Member since Aug 2012
3117 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 3:00 pm to
Yep. I've been 1099 for several years. Just changing the broker I work for was enough for the lenders to deny us even though I had previous work history. This is why I created my own LLC. Broker(no matter who it is) pays my LLC and my LLC pays me. My LLC issues me a 1099 not the brokers. Point being the lender won't ever know all the different projects or brokers I did work for. A lot of people in my profession do this because otherwise we would not be able to get a loan for anything.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35470 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

Point being the lender won't ever know all the different projects or brokers I did work for


I did a loan for an Irish music singer years and years ago. The hoops the poor guy had to jump through to get the loan was ridiculous even back then. We had to have current contracts from every bar he played at in addition to proving his previous income via tax returns.
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