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re: Trouble brewing for Avengers 2 cast?
Posted on 5/7/13 at 11:02 pm to Jumbeauxlaya
Posted on 5/7/13 at 11:02 pm to Jumbeauxlaya
Avengers 2 might not come close to Avengers.
The Avengers had a whole lot of lightning in a bottle type stuff going for it. Marvel took the risk and had a very patient long term setup for the movie and scored big by having their first franchise in the tent score big with a great actor.
People loved the movie and the payoff but will they be as interested in the sequel, especially if RDJ isn't in it?
TL; DR: Pay the man!
The Avengers had a whole lot of lightning in a bottle type stuff going for it. Marvel took the risk and had a very patient long term setup for the movie and scored big by having their first franchise in the tent score big with a great actor.
People loved the movie and the payoff but will they be as interested in the sequel, especially if RDJ isn't in it?
TL; DR: Pay the man!
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 11:06 pm to TigerMyth36
Ruffalo was easily the best Banner from the movies though.
I'd really like them to keep him. He should be the easiest to keep costs down on since they can just make him Hulk for extended periods of time.
I'd really like them to keep him. He should be the easiest to keep costs down on since they can just make him Hulk for extended periods of time.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 11:18 pm to Walking the Earth
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will they be as interested in the sequel
Yes.
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if RDJ isn't in it?
Not as much, but who knows to what degree. They know what they've got with him in it. Whedon's directing, it's gonna be good.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 11:31 pm to WhoDats10
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I assure you dc and star wars will stomp that arse. superman and star wars are still more famous then marvel characters
These are professional sports teams competing for one championship dude. It's not like people have to choose to go see one or the other either. Plenty of people will see the Marvel movies, DC movies, and the Star Wars movies, just as they have done in the past. Disney doesn't give two shits what WB does at the box office and vice versa. Hell Marvel and Lucasfilms are both Disney companies now so Disney is happy either way.
To put it plainly: Warner Brothers didn't give two shits that I paid to see The Avengers last year because I still paid to see The Dark Knight Rises. The whole competition thing is way overblown especially for movies that don't even open on the same weekend. Hell even on weekends with multiple new openings it's usually for different target audiences anyways.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 11:35 pm to Khal Drogo
Oh and this was to be expected. I'm surprised it took them this long. If I were the agents for Ruffalo/The Chrises I would have been in their ears the first thing Monday morning when the $207 million opening weekend news dropped and told them to take at least double the salaries for each of these movies and take no less than 2-3 gross points for their individual movies and at least a gross point for The Avengers 2.
The House of Mouse will play a little bit of hardball to not look like push overs, but they know they are going to have to pay these guys more. They just don't want to get Rush Hour 3ed in the process.
The House of Mouse will play a little bit of hardball to not look like push overs, but they know they are going to have to pay these guys more. They just don't want to get Rush Hour 3ed in the process.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 6:47 am to BradPitt
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Not to mention the final box office numbers aren't in yet. Once word spreads that IM3 sucks arse, it'll die off quickly
Quoted for later.
IM3 is already at $680 million worldwide.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 6:58 am to WhoDats10
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I assure you dc and star wars will stomp that arse. superman and star wars are still more famous then marvel characters
You're nuts dude. Superman has been mangled so many times that the new one won't even be in the same country as the ballpark Avengers is in. Star Wars has a chance but Avengers has become a monster that isn't going to be dethroned easily.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 7:01 am to WhoDats10
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what about hobbit or Narnia movies?
What about them? You didn't raise any points.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 7:56 am to Khal Drogo
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The House of Mouse will play a little bit of hardball to not look like push overs, but they know they are going to have to pay these guys more. They just don't want to get Rush Hour 3ed in the process.
Disney knows what's up. Didn't they pay Johnny Depp inordinate amounts of money for the Pirates movies? And they did that because they knew those movies (especially the last few) were gonna make BANK. Same with Avengers...when you can safely expect your movies to make billions, you're more likely to pay the actors appropriately (especially someone as important as your lead guy).
Posted on 5/8/13 at 8:53 am to BilJ
With a all the money being made, it would be a shame if a deal could not be made.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 8:56 am to CocomoLSU
I think Downey views Avengers 2 as the last hurrah for Iron Man, or at least him as Tony Stark. He's gonna make as much as he can, and walk away. What's cool is that it seems he is taking his castmates along for the ride. He's taking care of them as well. This is the brass ring. Get what you can, cash out, and then spend the rest of your career making whatever the hell you want. Ruffalo can go back to starring in apparently every single independent film. He'll have the money to not care about box office.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 9:02 am to Baloo
Ruffalo will need this, because there is only so much they can do with the Hulk. All that talk about World War Hulk and Planet Hulk was bullshite. They can't do those movies because they can't make a Hulk movie without Banner.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 12:07 pm to CocomoLSU
well Disney paid Depp whatever he wanted because he was really the only draw they needed with that franchise, pretty easy decision there.
This situation is pretty unprecedented
This situation is pretty unprecedented
Posted on 5/8/13 at 12:11 pm to BilJ
Really it kinda just sounds like typical posturing from both sides. I bet they get the deals done.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 12:17 pm to BilJ
They better be able to deal.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 12:21 pm to wadewilson
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They better be able to deal.
There's very little chance that they won't. Avengers 2 is not realistically in any danger of not getting made, just like N.Korea isn't throwing a nuke our way anytime soon.
It's still interesting to read about the conflict though.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 12:23 pm to Baloo
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I think Downey views Avengers 2 as the last hurrah for Iron Man, or at least him as Tony Stark. He's gonna make as much as he can, and walk away.
Agreed. And who can blame him? Nobody wants to do the same movie over and over. The first Iron Man came out 5 years ago...that's a long time to be tied to something, even if you enjoy it. I know he had other things (like Sherlock Holmes for example), but I'm sure he's ready to move on.
And let's not be mistaken, none of the cast is gonna starve because they aren't making money.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 12:26 pm to BilJ
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well Disney paid Depp whatever he wanted because he was really the only draw they needed with that franchise, pretty easy decision there.
RDJ is still the main draw though. Sure, the others are relatively important, but Iron Man is not only the "leader" in the movie, but also apparently RDJ is their "leader" IRL as well. They're all stars, but he's the most bankable one and the main draw.
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This situation is pretty unprecedented
Trying to think of a similar one...the Oceans movies maybe? Ensemble cast, but Pitt/Clooney were the main draws.
Also, with Pirates, you had Keira Knightley, Orlando Bloom, Geoffrey Rush, etc. While Depp was the obvious main draw, there was some other star power as well.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 12:35 pm to CocomoLSU
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Agreed. And who can blame him? Nobody wants to do the same movie over and over. The first Iron Man came out 5 years ago...that's a long time to be tied to something, even if you enjoy it. I know he had other things (like Sherlock Holmes for example), but I'm sure he's ready to move on.
Oh, I'm sure he's burnt out on it, and he's earned it. He really delivered with Tony Stark. He was about the only positive thing about IM3.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 1:03 pm to WhoDats10
quote:i read it as Marvel is being Jewish. Makes a billion dollars, pays the people who made the movie 10%.
downey is being spoiled.
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