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re: Why Are Food Trucks Not Allowed In New Orleans?

Posted on 5/7/13 at 2:54 pm to
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 2:54 pm to
Great post, kfizzle.
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the city is constantly trying to attract business to town.
Obviously not. Look what they've done to the food trucks.
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Trust me, I'm no protectionist on
Apparently you are.
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We don't have unlimited options
And restrictions like these share part of the blame.
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some things must be protected until the business climate changes.
1. That is protectionism.
2. This is another thing keeping the business climate from changing.
3. It's not bad enough that New Orleans is run like a corrupt, city in a third world country but some people are actually proud of it and supportive of it. So sad.
Posted by notiger1997
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 2:55 pm to
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It's not bad enough that New Orleans is run like a corrupt, city in a third world country but some people are actually proud of it and supportive of it. So sad.


Oh good god! Please just stop.
Posted by Oenophile Brah
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 2:56 pm to
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Blue Velvet

Do you read and comprehend as well as you edit?
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 2:59 pm to
I comprehend that you have little or no understanding of basic economics and that you want to stifle New Orleans' great food scene because you are ignorant of how the market works.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:02 pm to
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Surprised you left, surely industry exists in NOLA equal to Houston?


Not sure what you're asking here? I work in finance/energy. I'm trying to move home as hard as possible, its proving to be extremely difficult, which sucks the big one.

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Houston has such a large amount of industry that require a large amounts of supply of food. This exists with or without food trucks. Obviously New Orleans is a much smaller town,(New Orleans has 1/6 the population) with limited industry. The CBD is a work in progress, the city is constantly trying to attract business to town.

The universe of options is much smaller so when 1 restaurant in NOLA is lost it has a much larger impact then 1 lost in Houston.


NOLA is also 350 square miles to Houston's 600. The macro view isn't important in my opinion, you need to look at it on the neighborhood-level in Houston to see how it works. My buddy that lives in Cypress isn't driving 45 miles to get a taco, but I've got no problem driving 3 miles from Uptown to Midcity to try out Toup's or whatever.

And I don't understand why 1 food truck has to come at the expense of a restaurant each time. We've been opening restaurants left and right for 5 years, the metro population is growing at a rate higher than the national average; this is clearly not a zero sum game. My point was that some pretty well regarded restaurants in Houston started out as food trucks, and at least in one case provided enough additional capital to start an entirely new business. Yeah, more competition will probably drive a few places to close, as it should. Another city is showing it can also lead to new jobs and new brick and mortars. People want economic growth but they don't want the risk that comes with it. It doesn't have to be an all or nothing proposition, but the nothing proposition is certainly not the answer.
Posted by 337tigergirl
Houston
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:04 pm to
i think they should make a food truck park and let people that want to eat from food trucks go there.

But the only time I want to eat from a food truck is when i'm wasted, unless they had more in Metry (where I work).

I agree that the government needs to protect the brick and mortar establishments.

if you don't like it here Blue Velvet, well you can move. haha. jk
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:07 pm to
I love it here. That's why I don't want it run like a socialist South American country. If you want what's best for the city's food scene and business climate, then you'd be against the current food truck legislation. Simple.
Posted by TigerWise
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:08 pm to
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i think they should make a food truck park and let people that want to eat from food trucks go there.


I don't want to go to a park to eat off a food truck late night. I want it to be in front of the bar I'm wasted in.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:08 pm to
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They want into the CBD at lunch time.


So?

Competition is a GOOD thing
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:11 pm to
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Oh good god! Please just stop.


Don't want to hear the truth?

What blue velvet is saying is gospel
This post was edited on 5/7/13 at 3:11 pm
Posted by Oenophile Brah
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:15 pm to
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you want to stifle New Orleans' great food scene

Yes, this is my intent.

I'm concerned about the long term economic health of the city. Tourism is our main industry. Food trucks are new, and as I stated already if they can meld into the community without causing a negative impact I'm for them. I'm just not so sure that is the case. If you wish to level the playing field, eliminate property taxes on restaurants, and other service costs then we can talk. 10 jobs is > 2.

Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:17 pm to
Austin has 1000+ food trucks

Their economy seems to be doing just fine
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:17 pm to
You keep saying this as though its gospel when I'm showing you clear evidence of an alternative. Again, this is not a zero sum game.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:18 pm to
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Food trucks are new


no they aren't

And what about lucky dogs? And other street food vendors?

What's wrong with having competition?
Posted by Oenophile Brah
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:20 pm to
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If you want what's best for the city's food scene and business climate,

You are the only one who is comparing the food scene to other industry. I heard no calls for protecting any other industry.
Posted by bdevill
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2008
11804 posts
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:21 pm to
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In BR the most highly over-rated pizza and hamburger on this board both come from a food truck


This post was edited on 5/7/13 at 3:23 pm
Posted by Oenophile Brah
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:21 pm to
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no they aren't

locally. I was certain we were discussing New Orleans.
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:21 pm to
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I'm concerned about the long term economic health of the city.
But you don't support the new boom that could be food trucks? BR has a better food truck scene than New Orleans.
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Tourism is our main industry.
orly? Tell me how a food truck scene would be bad for tourism.
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Food trucks are new, and as I stated already if they can meld into the community without causing a negative impact I'm for them.
Yet you can't elaborate on what this negative impact is.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:22 pm to
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i think they should make a food truck park and let people that want to eat from food trucks go there.


this makes no sense

they have "food truck rallies" and from what I've seen they're not the most popular things in the world. a food truck's primary draw is its mobility and that they can pop up for customers in a time and place when it's convenient. who wants to drive to city park in the middle of a Saturday just because 10 food trucks are parked there? doesn't sound appealing to me.

Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:24 pm to
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You are the only one who is comparing the food scene to other industry. I heard no calls for protecting any other industry.
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I agree that the government needs to protect the brick and mortar establishments.
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some things must be protected until the business climate changes
This is just another thing affecting the business climate and other industry (real estate/property taxes, tourism, etc).
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