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Sun Life Stadium Renovations Canceled

Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:25 pm
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:25 pm
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The Miami Dolphins likely lost their shot at hosting Super Bowl L when Florida lawmakers opted not to approve a deal that would publicly fund improvements to aging Sun Life Stadium.

Could the consequences be even greater?

Dolphins CEO Mike Dee said Sunday on Miami's CBS affiliate that the team will not provide any upgrades to Sun Life Stadium without the help of public funding. The Dolphins have canceled all renovation plans and say stadium improvements cannot be made without public-private partnership. Dee left the door open that the stadium issue could lead to the Dolphins' eventual exit from southern Florida.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39551 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:26 pm to
I hope more voters/representatives make teams pay for their own stuff.

Call their bluff and see where Miami can realistically go that isn't LA.
This post was edited on 5/5/13 at 9:27 pm
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
13901 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:27 pm to
It all but guarantees SB 50 goes to Santa Clara.
This post was edited on 5/5/13 at 9:27 pm
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21652 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:29 pm to
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I hope more voters/representatives make teams pay for their own stuff.


Or at least get the city a percentage of profits that tax dollars are helping to generate. I don't understand why it's so popular for tax dollars to be used for private use.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38405 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:34 pm to
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I don't understand why it's so popular for tax dollars to be used for private use.


Because its easy money. These teams has figured out they can exploit the voter base because of an individuals affinity for their team. I hope this is the beginning of a changing of the guard. Teams need to either foot the bill or share the profits with those who foot the bill.
This post was edited on 5/5/13 at 9:35 pm
Posted by GABlueDog
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
8045 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:35 pm to
Why should public funds be spent on private organizations especially when the public has no interest in fully supporting said private organizations...see new Marlins stadium.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110582 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:35 pm to
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Or at least get the city a percentage of profits that tax dollars are helping to generate
the city would have gotten a ton of money in the form of a Super Bowl and other big time events that they won't get now likely.

Plus it was a hotel tax, so in reality,tthe tax is moreso on tourists, not citizens.

Locals felt betrayed by the Marlins and took it out on the dolphins.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110582 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:36 pm to
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Why should public funds be spent on private organizations
because of the millions upon millions of dollars the city would generate.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39551 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:37 pm to
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the city would have gotten a ton of money in the form of a Super Bowl and other big time events that they won't get now likely.


I remember reading some articles when Detroit got the Super Bowl that put this in serious doubt. The costs of hosting the event are astronomical. The benefit is intangible that you may convince people on TV, etc. to visit in the future.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38405 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:42 pm to
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I remember reading some articles when Detroit got the Super Bowl that put this in serious doubt.


Absolutely. The facade of making money from a Super Bowl is grossly over blown. The amount of money that these cities have to now spend just to be in the running is insane. Bottom line, tax dollars shouldn't be used for stadiums and facilities and if they are the city should have full access to them. You want a stadium, fine but I suggest you foot the bill for an operations facility that is close proximity because we may host some events in this thing.
Posted by GABlueDog
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
8045 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:43 pm to
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Plus it was a hotel tax, so in reality,tthe tax is moreso on tourists, not citizens.

This argument is often used by team owners pushing for public funds for their teams.

The reality is although it is a hotel tax being paid primarily by tourists that money generated from the tax nonetheless consists of tax dollars. And those tax dollars that could be put to use on other projects (parks, transit, schools, police, fire, etc) are instead being spent on a rich owner's team.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:50 pm to
It's okay to give a rich man a billion dollars, but I'm gonna bitch up a storm if a black man gets one millionth of that.

I get it.
Posted by GABlueDog
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
8045 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:52 pm to






Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:52 pm to
frick Miami and Florida as a whole, don't support teams don't get Super Bowls
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
83333 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 10:09 pm to
blame jeffrey loria for that
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
75335 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 10:20 pm to
What the frick?
Posted by cornhat
Member since Feb 2011
3393 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 10:22 pm to
As someone who lives in Miami, people here love the Dolphins. They hate the Marlins.

And part of the hotel tax is legislated to be spent on sports teams. Would have rather had any public money going to the Dolphins over the Marlins. But Loria fricked it up for them.
Posted by cornhat
Member since Feb 2011
3393 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 10:25 pm to
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Why should public funds be spent on private organizations especially when the public has no interest in fully supporting said private organizations...see new Marlins stadium.
Because the Marlins have managed and handled themselves so well...
Posted by Wendell T. Stamps
Member since Jan 2013
393 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 10:33 pm to
The only reason the "threat" to leave pisses me off is because this ownership now proves that it cares more about hosting Super Bowls than getting to them. It's an empty threat that's just being used as a scare tactic, but still, it makes it look like they want to pack up and leave just because they can't make money hosting the event, rather than getting the team to the event.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29100 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 11:22 pm to
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It all but guarantees SB 50 goes to Santa Clara.

That was going to happen anyway.
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