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What caused such a shift in Louisiana towards the right?


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Speech by very popular Governor Huey P. Long in 1934. Can you imagine if a Louisiana Governor gave this same speech today? So what caused this shift in Louisiana politics towards the right?



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re: What caused such a shift in Louisiana towards the right?


First hand witness to the disaster that was nearly a century of liberal governance and dysfunctional society.





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re: What caused such a shift in Louisiana towards the right?


Hurricane Katrina





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Jim Rockford
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The GOP discovered Jesus.





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talk about having a spaz attack huh?





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Doosh606
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re: What caused such a shift in Louisiana towards the right?


Not race baiting, but that sure as hell has a lot to do with it





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Edwin Edwards created a disgust for the democratic party in the state.

Mike Foster proved that lower case c conservatism could work.

Katrina and Blanco solidified and fully legitimized the conservative movement in Louisiana, paving the way for an almost complete takeover.

The thing is, Louisiana has always been conservative, but democats weren't always liberal. Louisiana has always loved populists that look out "for the common man". That is why we still are enamored by crooks and despots like Edwin Edwards and Huey P Long. Louisiana, probably more so than any other state, loves the cult of personality at the local and state level, because we feel we can connect with those politicians.

However, being such a small state, on the national level we don't get to have that kind of connection. When we can't connect with a cult of personality figure, people fall back on their values. As a rural, poor, state, we favor populism, fiscal conservatism, and social conservatism, three principles that are often at odds with one another. Now that the GOP has painted itself as the conservative party, reforming the "good ole boy" network, the GOP is in favor.

However, the second a new populist with a D by his name rises in this state, we will be back in the cult, worshiping before a personality, gladly handing over what the crook can't steal.






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Edwin Edwards created a disgust for the democratic party in the state.

Mike Foster proved that lower case c conservatism could work.

Katrina and Blanco solidified and fully legitimized the conservative movement in Louisiana, paving the way for an almost complete takeover.

all plausible but clearly wrong, when basically all southern US states moved to the right together.

Southern white males vote together similarly to how black people vote in a block. But this board would have us believe it's because southern white males are rational but black people are not.






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That's because black people nationwide vote similarly.





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Louisiana started leaning Right after Democratic Gov Edwin Edwards made Louisiana a right to work state. Thus ending most Union power.





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Tigah in the ATL
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That's because black people nationwide vote similarly
not sure what your point is






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not sure what your point is


Nor yours ?






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WmWallace
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Seeing firsthand where your tax dollars go does that to a group of working people





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Louisiana has always had a culture of self reliance and 'leave me alone' re: govt.

That was Democrat in the past and now it is Republican.

Philosophically, there has been no shift.






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kingbob
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Philosophically, there has been no shift.


Exactly. The people didn't change, the parties' philosophies changed.






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Tigah in the ATL
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Louisiana has always had a culture of self reliance and 'leave me alone' re: govt.

that doesn't really seem like Huey's message to me.






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kingbob
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that doesn't really seem like Huey's message to me


I had said it before. People in Louisiana believe in self-reliance, leave me alone, ect, but they also love a charismatic snake oil sailsman. Louisiana loves a them some Cult of Personality and that's what Huey was. However, he was much more effective than most in that he stole money from the state, enriched his friends and cronies, and did a huge mountain of good for the people of the state. Edwin Edwards forgot to do that last part.






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re: What caused such a shift in Louisiana towards the right?


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Southern white males vote together similarly to how black people vote in a block. But this board would have us believe it's because southern white males are rational but black people are not.


The majority of black ppl are not. Most rational thinking ppl can clearly see how the democratic party has taken advantage of poor uneducated and ignorant blacks. The party preys on them and promise them the moon while giving them crumbs. They keep the black community dependant on the government for food stamps welfare and now free healthcare. What's the old saying give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him to fish and he will eat for life.






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re: What caused such a shift in Louisiana towards the right?


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Speech by very popular Governor Huey P. Long in 1934. Can you imagine if a Louisiana Governor gave this same speech today? So what caused this shift in Louisiana politics towards the right?


The Longs themselves, as well as the civil rights movement.

Earl Long capitalized on civil rights and had a pretty strong power base among black voters. Plus, Earl managed to maintain Huey's political machine, which was extremely corrupt and nepotistic (mafia involvement, oil scandal, the "deduct" box, etc.).

So politics in Louisiana during the Long era was about Longs and anti-Longs, not necessarily left and right. Civil rights was all tied up with that.







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So politics in Louisiana during the Long era was about Longs and anti-Longs, not necessarily left and right. Civil rights was all tied up with that.


Huey wasn't above a little racebaiting to keep the masses stirred up, but he wasn't much of a racist and did things like make sure black children were included in the free schoolbook program. Earl was actually fairly progressive on Civil Rights.

The difference between the Longs and those who preceded them is that they made sure the common man got a something-Highways, bridges, schoolbooks, the opportunity to go to college. The oligarchs who ran the state before them were just as corrupt as the Longs, if not moreso, and kept everything for themselves. EWE used the Long playbook.






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