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CptBengal
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Why the US going green will destroy us, and wont save earth....


"tragedy of the commons"

as long as fossile fuels are cheap and available, someone is going to use them, eghm China eghm, so what is the fricking point of artifically inflating the cost of goods/services?







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dominustd
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Big corporations love "green energy" as it allows them more tax breaks if they invest/use this crap.

I was at Eaton for a while and that company loved being "Green" and were very active in talking and using(so they said)it.

Fortune 500's are the major reasons why we have Obamacare and green energy bs. frick 'em!






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Big corporations love "green energy" as it allows them more tax breaks if they invest/use this crap. I was at Eaton for a while and that company loved being "Green" and were very active in talking and using(so they said)it. Fortune 500's are the major reasons why we have Obamacare and green energy bs. frick 'em!


That's what liberals seem to miss. The bigger you make the government, the better it is for the fat cats. They're the ones who have access to the power structure and can buy off the politicians.






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If you want to make a strong point to a debate, you need a hell of a lot more than a quote and one opinionated sentence.





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hell of a lot more than a quote


I suggest you look up the tragedy of the commons....my job isn't to educate your stupidity






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Seems like a strong point to me





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dominustd
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That's what liberals seem to miss. The bigger you make the government, the better it is for the fat cats. They're the ones who have access to the power structure and can buy off the politicians.


The ties btn gov't and major corporations is destroying our system.

I have come to loathe the Fortune 500's as they are simply partners in socializing our system to a point.

I agree with the the term "corporatist" as it is a mix of capitalism and socialism.






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The bigger you make the government, the better it is for the fat cats.


Of course. Who can afford these regulations? Who can navigate them? The biggest businesses among us. Small businesses (which liberals love to point out as the preferred alternative to the greedy corporations) are choked out of the market for an inability to deal effectively with government intervention. Then the government, having effectively created monopolies, comes along and tells us how bad monopolies are and if only we give the government more power, they can keep them at bay!






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Democratic policies are way more favorable to big corporations. At least with conservative ones, the little man has a better opportunity to build and grow his business.





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The ties btn gov't and major corporations is destroying our system.



Yes.

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I have come to loathe the Fortune 500's as they are simply partners in socializing our system to a point.


I'm not sure how you can blame the corporations. They are looking out for what is in the best interest of their shareholders. If they can manage to get the government to make things easier on them, good for them. I place the blame squarely on the shoulders of the spineless politicians who allow for the corporations and their money for reelection campaigns to dictate how they vote/spread around tax dollars.






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The pollution coming from Asia is f$%king horrendous. Seriously, at our worst we couldn't touch that shite. Our output is insignificant if China and the rest of Asia don't change.





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dominustd
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I'm not sure how you can blame the corporations. They are looking out for what is in the best interest of their shareholders.


Only the most vested.

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If they can manage to get the government to make things easier on them, good for them


Misguided thinking by a conservative/libertarian.

The problem with your logic is called Obamacare and green energy, which hurts individuals and small businesses, the vast majority fwiw.

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I place the blame squarely on the shoulders of the spineless politicians who allow for the corporations and their money for reelection campaigns to dictate how they vote/spread around tax dollars.


They shake hands, wink and you buy it.






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If you want to make a strong point to a debate, you need a hell of a lot more than a quote and one opinionated sentence.


Cptotto's way of tricking himself into thinking he's more smarter...game theory, occhams razor, blah, blah, blah.

We aren't in any danger of destroying ourselves with green energy...aside from some crony cap on the green side oil & gas remains for the foreseeable future the predominant energy source and is ushering in a manufacturing renaissance. That's factual, that's real...Uhh, game theory, divine proportion...whatevs.






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That's factual, that's real...Uhh, game theory, divine proportion...whatevs.


the tragedy of the commons is a well known principle, incedentaly, poarulated by a liberal.....

"a mind is a terrible thing to waste" - UNCF






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as long as fossile fuels are cheap and available, someone is going to use them


All we have to do is look at China, and the environment be damned...yet we (America) have to protect what they don't care about. Even worse, when you consider we choose to buy Chinese products...but then, kind of difficult when you can't find American made goods because of cheap labor and greedy American CEO's...






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If you want to make a strong point to a debate, you need a hell of a lot more than a quote and one opinionated sentence.

This is a message board - not the Chicage Tribune! Message Boards are for...well, messages. If you are looking for more thorough info why are you on here seeking it? OR are you just trying to be a jerk to one lone response? I hope you leave feeling a bit more inflated after your spew.






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incedentaly, poarulated


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"a mind is a terrible thing to waste" - UNCF


Indeed!






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Big corporations love "green energy" as it allows them more tax breaks if they invest/use this crap.


big corporations love green initiatives because they lower operating and maintenance costs, improves the health and productivity of their workers. While I don't really care for government incentives, no one spends a bunch of money for a tax break unless the investment provides long-term tangible business benefits.



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Indeed


Yes because my typo from posting from my phone at jazz fest is equal to your lack of knowledge concerning a real, and generally accepted intellectual concept.







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Tigah in the ATL
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tragedy of the commons
the common resource here is the environment, not fossil fuels. It's why market forces won't prevent pollution.






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