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re: It's time for another NBA All-Time Team thread (sort of)

Posted on 5/6/13 at 3:54 pm to
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 3:54 pm to
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and for my point guard I would take rajon yes rajon, Jason Kidd or stockton


Over Isiah Thomas?
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 4:24 pm to
Is that link supposed to tell me something about LeBron?
Posted by Khal Drogo
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 4:26 pm to
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Over Isiah Thomas?



Or The Glove.
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 4:44 pm to
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Is that link supposed to tell me something about LeBron?


Did you read it?
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 4:48 pm to
yu dumb brah
Posted by Khal Drogo
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 4:49 pm to
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You gotta have Pippen. If they have a dominant forward, Pippen is our best hope of containing him.



Lebron.


This was LeBron's best defensive season in his career and he wasn't the best defender at his position. Or the second. Or the third.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 5:30 pm to
Lebron was better defensively in 09 and 10 then he was this year. He just had more responsibility under Mike Brown in Cleveland.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 5:31 pm to
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Simmons had this discussion before with Bob Ryan. This was his team:

Magic Johnson
Michael Jordan
LeBron James
Larry Bird
Bill Walton

Basically, you have to have big guys who are willing to rebound and share the ball. Johnson, James, Bird, and Walton all fit that mold. Then you have Jordan, who is your "go-to guy."

I really like this team, to be honest. Walton would be PERFECT for a team like this.


If you have a "go-to-guy" then the other guys passing ability is useless
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 5:58 pm to
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If you have a "go-to-guy" then the other guys passing ability is useless

No, it isn't.

That is a retarded statement.

ETA: Pierce is the Celtics' go-to guy. Rondo is not useless. Garnett averaging 3 assists from the center position is not useless.
This post was edited on 5/6/13 at 6:00 pm
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 6:00 pm to
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No, it isn't.

That is a retarded statement.


In the half court it is. Jordan is not cutting and spotting up for open shots like Byron Scott. He's getting the ball in isolation nobody passes him the ball he creates and scores or passes out of double teams to spot up shooters like Darrell Armstrong.

The dominant iso scoring wing and the great passing PG has NEVER worked. Kidd/Carter Nash/Kobe Dantley/Isiah and a few others. Its rarely even tried because its proven to be unsuccessful.
This post was edited on 5/6/13 at 6:11 pm
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 6:01 pm to
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Did you read it?

On my phone.

And just because that guy has some formula as to why LeBron is the greatest defender of all-time, that doesn't mean he is the greatest defender of all-time.
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 6:07 pm to
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This was LeBron's best defensive season in his career and he wasn't the best defender at his position. Or the second. Or the third.


This is a nice unsupported conclusion. And also one that happens to be completely incorrect.
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 6:13 pm to
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On my phone.

And just because that guy has some formula as to why LeBron is the greatest defender of all-time, that doesn't mean he is the greatest defender of all-time.


It's much more than that. When you aren't on your phone, read the entire grantland article. It's very interesting. Inside look at how SportsVU is changing basketball

Here is the portion where Lebron is mentioned.
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Ultra-aggressive help defense is really hard work. Replay that clip and watch how far DeRozan's ghost has to move as the Knicks swing the ball. That's brutal, and it's not a coincidence that the only team that consistently mirrors the help defense of its ghosts is Miami, Rucker says. The Heat have three of the best wing defenders in the league in Shane Battier, LeBron James, and Dwyane Wade, and the latter two are among the NBA's most gifted pure athletes. James can mimic DeRozan's hyperactive ghost in a way no other player can, Rucker says. "LeBron basically messes up the system and the ghosts," Rucker says. "He does things that are just unsustainable for most players."
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 6:16 pm to
Khal Drogo is a troll
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 6:20 pm to
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This was LeBron's best defensive season in his career and he wasn't the best defender at his position. Or the second. Or the third.


I just want to reiterate that whoever wrote this is dumber than a bag of hammers.
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 6:21 pm to
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Khal Drogo is a troll


Ahh, I see.
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