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re: Marilyn Manson?

Posted on 5/3/13 at 5:52 pm to
Posted by TheFolker
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 5:52 pm to
The Beautiful People and Tourniquet are all I know. I like both songs.
This post was edited on 5/3/13 at 5:53 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 5:54 pm to
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Is it possible that it's all a big act?


it's not only possible it's pretty much a fact and he will even admit as much.

i mean he really was one of those kids himself and from what i can tell he looks at himself as an "artist" in a very general sense but i don't think there's any question at all it's an act.
Posted by FLIPofthecoin
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Member since Apr 2013
454 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 7:18 pm to
NIN is quite possibly my all-time favorite band, so back in the mid-90s when Trent Reznor started promoting Marilyn Manson, I was intrigued. I know his main schtick during concerts was to slice his stomach/chest with pieces of glass and whatnot, leaving a lot of scars all over himself.

A friend of mine (and fellow NIN fan) encouraged me to listen to "Portrait of an American Family" and to this day I still consider it to be a great (not good, GREAT) album. When "Smells Like Children" was released we went and bought it and we both liked it, as well, as though it features quite a few remixes from "Portrait".

However, by that time Manson was starting to gain a major following and really started pushing the envelope, attempting to personify evil as much as he possibly could. I admit that I like some songs on Antichrist Superstar, but the album scared me, to be honest. The artwork in the CD jacket was disturbing, and it just really turned me off. I never bought another Manson album after that.

Doing research I discovered that the band was originally called "Marilyn Manson and the Spooky Kids" and that the band members all had mixed names of Hollywood icons and serial killers (Madonna Wayne Gacy, etc.)

I did attend a Manson concert in New Orleans in the late-90s and it really wasn't as bad as expected. Just a lot of freaks and I remember Manson wearing a thong corset and walking around on stilts and just putting on a freak show as best he could.

Anyway, I still rock out to my old Manson albums once in a while (the only 2 I still own are Portrait of an American Family and Smells Like Children.)

Portrait of an American family features a lot of the band's early work, and focuses mainly on kids rebelling against norms of society and deciding for themselves what they like, and rising up against bullies and fighting back. My favorite song is "Lunchbox" which basically is based around incidents where kids who were bullied were using metal lunchboxes to fight back. "Got my lunchbox and I'm armed real well..." is the main theme. "Cake and Sodomy," "Dope Hat," "Get Your Gun", and "Dogma" are other standouts on the album.

This post was edited on 5/3/13 at 7:29 pm
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 7:27 pm to
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but the album scared me, to be honest. The artwork in the CD jacket was disturbing, and it just really turned me off.

That scared you but not him cutting himself with glass and bleeding all over stage? Or the cover of the first album? Or song titles like Cake and Sodomy or Wrapped in Plastic?
Posted by FLIPofthecoin
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 7:33 pm to
Nope, none of that stuff really bothered me. I didn't find the covers of Portrait of an American Family or Smells Like Children to be scary or bad at all. What disturbed me was when he really started trying to make himself look like some sort of evil demon antichrist and started focusing more on Satanic stuff.
This post was edited on 5/3/13 at 7:34 pm
Posted by FLIPofthecoin
Los Angeles Kings Fan
Member since Apr 2013
454 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 7:44 pm to


Meh, no big deal



Meh, no big deal












This post was edited on 5/3/13 at 7:46 pm
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39123 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 7:49 pm to
That's all part of his act. Here's what a true anti Christian, convicted murderer and church burner looks like.



Not so scary, is he?
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27049 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 8:02 pm to
Not the biggest fan of his stuff, but every so often he does some songs I really dig, like his cover of Tainted Love, NSFW Video Link, or Rock is Dead.
This post was edited on 5/3/13 at 8:09 pm
Posted by IIxxBREADxxII
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
9732 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 8:29 pm to
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The albums Trent Reznor produced were awesome, especially Antichrist Superstar. If you're a fan of 90s NIN, you'll enjoy that album. The rest of his music isn't very good.


This. Antichrist is a very good concept album that has some very powerful lyrics to go with Trent's stellar production. Its hands down one of the best "industrial"/hard rock albums from that era.

I'll add that "Mechanical Animals" and "Holywood" are worth a listen if you have never heard them.
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