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Oliver Queen vs Bruce Wayne (Dark Knight version)

Posted on 5/1/13 at 11:53 pm
Posted by LSUDVM1999
North Carolina
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 11:53 pm
Was thinking about this after watching OQ break down all of the guards in the complex where they held Walter: Hand to hand combat, no weapons...

who wins?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 11:57 pm to
Seriously? Scruffy don't even know who Oliver Queen is, but no one, and Scruffy means NO ONE fricks with the Dark Knight.
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 11:59 pm to
Bruce Wayne would destroy Oliver Queen. Wayne is a highly trained god damn shadow ninja. Queen is just some rich spoiled kid who wrecked on an island and taught himself survival skills and runs around shooting arrows
This post was edited on 5/2/13 at 12:00 am
Posted by ipodking
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 12:03 am to
Oliver would frick Bruce up
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 12:06 am to
Wait, y'all are talking about Green Arrow.

Yea, Batman wins that competition every time. Easy.
Posted by LSUDVM1999
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 12:20 am to
quote:

Bruce Wayne would destroy Oliver Queen. Wayne is a highly trained god damn shadow ninja. Queen is just some rich spoiled kid who wrecked on an island and taught himself survival skills and runs around shooting arrows


I was thinking this too as I was trying to draw parallels to their lives.

Both are billionaire heirs from their fathers' fortunes and use that money to support the technology they use to hunt down the criminals of their cities.
Both live as citizens by day and use the nighttime as cover for their activities.
Both have a vendetta against crime in their respective cities.
Both have specialized training and skills: Bruce Wayne in a ninja-esque fashion and Oliver Queen in a kind of para-military/survival way (as was stated in a previous post)

I see this as more of a draw without any toys involved.
This post was edited on 5/2/13 at 12:22 am
Posted by Ash Williams
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Member since May 2009
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 12:22 am to
quote:

Bruce Wayne would destroy Oliver Queen. Wayne is a highly trained god damn shadow ninja. Queen is just some rich spoiled kid who wrecked on an island and taught himself survival skills and runs around shooting arrows


I'm afraid this is what it boils down to

Oliver was a great fighter and survivor but he succeeded because he had the money to make cool shite into arrows

Whereas Bruce Wayne was a bad arse ninja who had cool
shite.

I do like green arrows facial hair though
Posted by LSUDVM1999
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 12:31 am to
quote:

Oliver was a great fighter and survivor but he succeeded because he had the money to make cool shite into arrows


quote:

Whereas Bruce Wayne was a bad arse ninja


I can see this however I would also say that OQ does more hand to hand combat as he also uses his bow some as a weapon itself (not including the arrows) whereas BW has more gadgets at his disposal.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 12:42 am to
Bruce Wayne wins this hands down.

He's knows every type of combat known to man and he only has one rule when it comes to fighting, don't kill. Aside from that, he'll break your arms or legs and smash you in the nuts.

He's also one of the most paranoid people ever. He has a backup plan for a backup plan's contingency plan.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
21958 posts
Posted on 5/2/13 at 1:07 am to
Well, because the Arrow will kill, does that mean he wins when he sticks an arrow through the Bat's eye?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72002 posts
Posted on 5/2/13 at 1:09 am to
It isn't like Bats hasn't faced off against people that kill.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 1:14 am to
True. I just like the Arrow because he has fun with the superhero thing. He isn't quite as tortured as Bats.

Strictly hand to hand wise...Ollie is a metahuman with greater than human speed and agility so...he might have an advantage over Bats sans toys.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14414 posts
Posted on 5/2/13 at 4:00 am to
quote:

Ollie is a metahuman with greater than human speed and agility so...


Say wha? Ollie may be the master of the salmon ladder but he's no metahuman.

I say Bruce takes Ollie but agree with the previous poster in that it would be close.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
That Overweight Racist State
Member since Mar 2011
18280 posts
Posted on 5/2/13 at 6:59 am to
From a strickly "arrow universe vs dark knight universe" right now Bruce Wayne wins... that being said, by the time we see oq take down merlyn it'll probably give oq and slight edge.. in my opinion:

Merlyn > ra's - when we are focused ONLY on the two fictional mediums.

EDITED because autocorrect made me spell ra's .. raja
This post was edited on 5/2/13 at 10:00 am
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14414 posts
Posted on 5/2/13 at 7:25 am to
quote:

From a strickly "arrow universe vs dark knight universe" right now Bruce Wayne wins... that being said, by the time we see oq take down merlyn it'll probably give oq and slight edge.. in my opinion: Merlyn > raja - when we are focused ONLY on the two fictional mediums.


Good point. Let's not forget that Malcolm Merlyn was trained in Nanda Parbat. In the DC universe, that is where the Sensai is from who is with the League of Assassins. The League of Assassins which is the group that the League of Shadows in Begins is based on.


ETA: I'd also like to qualify that all of this, as BA said, is purely based on Ollie from Arrow vs Bruce from the Nolan trilogy.

If you start getting into the comics Green Arrow vs Batman, there is no argument.
This post was edited on 5/2/13 at 7:27 am
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
21958 posts
Posted on 5/2/13 at 7:30 am to
Yeah, the writers have seriously screwed the entire Batman character up with his "godlike" abilities of perception and planning. He's not fricking omniscient but he's pretty close.

One of the reasons I don't really like much of the Batman stuff anymore.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
That Overweight Racist State
Member since Mar 2011
18280 posts
Posted on 5/2/13 at 10:04 am to
quote:

Good point. Let's not forget that Malcolm Merlyn was trained in Nanda Parbat. In the DC universe, that is where the Sensai is from who is with the League of Assassins. The League of Assassins which is the group that the League of Shadows in Begins is based on.


ETA: I'd also like to qualify that all of this, as BA said, is purely based on Ollie from Arrow vs Bruce from the Nolan trilogy.

If you start getting into the comics Green Arrow vs Batman, there is no argument.


Yeah, also don't forget that the Sensei is Ra's father... so everything Ra's knows, would be what Merlyn knows.. and if you remember - OQ got his arse handed to him in this season of Arrow by Merlyn.

That being said, I think Merlyn became The Sensei's equal by the end... and I also believe when OQ finally defeats Merlyn, it'll be much much more decisive than when Bruce beat Ra's.

That being said, I think OQ has at least another season or maybe even 2, before he's on par / or better than Batman from the end of Batman Begins.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14414 posts
Posted on 5/2/13 at 10:13 am to
quote:

Yeah, also don't forget that the Sensei is Ra's father... so everything Ra's knows, would be what Merlyn knows.. and if you remember - OQ got his arse handed to him in this season of Arrow by Merlyn. That being said, I think Merlyn became The Sensei's equal by the end... and I also believe when OQ finally defeats Merlyn, it'll be much much more decisive than when Bruce beat Ra's. That being said, I think OQ has at least another season or maybe even 2, before he's on par / or better than Batman from the end of Batman Begins


frick yeah BA! You and I just did some work son!
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 5/2/13 at 10:21 am to
/hijack.

quote:

Murray


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It's a crossover series between marvel and DC Comics and it's pretty well done. Each chapter takes at least an hour to read.

Edit to remove email.
This post was edited on 5/2/13 at 11:13 am
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14414 posts
Posted on 5/2/13 at 10:46 am to
quote:

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Right on man. I just emailed you
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