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USGA issues statement on Tiger Woods drop

Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:27 pm
Posted by threeputt
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:27 pm
Long but good read

They did not use the new HD Rule in order to not to DQ him (i had been pretty outspoken that that rule did not apply here .. Pat on the back for threeputt)
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:29 pm to
Drop it.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:29 pm to
I ain't clicking no link.

Cliff notes, please.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:31 pm to
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Drop it.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:31 pm to
So, they blamed it on the Masters, basically.

Not saying they're wrong, but just saying, that's what they did.
Posted by threeputt
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:34 pm to
Basically hd rule did not apply here. Tiger fricked up .. Committee fricked up .. Usga says under extreme circumstances they are allowed to go back fix the problem and not dq player .. Basically CYA we dont want the masters pissed at us
This post was edited on 5/1/13 at 12:36 pm
Posted by GABlueDog
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:35 pm to
Good, I'm glad this is all settled now.
Posted by bamafan425
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:35 pm to
Good read.

quote:

The Decisions on the Rules of Golf authorize a Committee to correct an incorrect decision before the competition has closed, and they establish that where a Committee incorrectly advises a competitor, before he returns his score card, that he has incurred no penalty, and then subsequently corrects its mistake, it is appropriate for the Committee to waive the disqualification penalty.


I think that's the key part that summarizes the article.
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:36 pm to
So he should have been DQ'd?
Posted by bamafan425
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:39 pm to
It was a two part screw up. Tiger screwed up on the drop. Then the committee screwed up on giving him the all clear before he signed his card.

He technically should/could have been DQ'd because he signed an incorrect scorecard, but he followed the right protocol. He consulted the rules committee. They gave him the all clear. So he signed the card. It would have been pretty BS to give him the all clear then DQ him.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
25068 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:43 pm to
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So he should have been DQ'd?


If the Committee had not reviewed his drop and given it the okay, he would have been.

They SHOULD have concluded Tiger made an illegal drop and told him about it before he signed his score card, he takes 8, and there isn't an issue.
Posted by Choupique19
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

If the Committee had not reviewed his drop and given it the okay, he would have been.

They SHOULD have concluded Tiger made an illegal drop and told him about it before he signed his score card, he takes 8, and there isn't an issue.


Thanks for the synopsis. I was too lazy to click the link.
Posted by Ford Frenzy
337 posts
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

So he should have been DQ'd?
no because he confirmed his drop with the rules committee, they ok'd it, he signed...committee screwed up by confirming to him his drop
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
25068 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 1:33 pm to
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no because he confirmed his drop with the rules committee, they ok'd it, he signed


It went more like this

Tiger takes drop
Caller calls in
Committee reviews it, sees no problem, they don't inform Tiger
He signs scorecard
Has interview which he admits guilt
Firestorm starts
Meets with Committee in the Morning
Takes 2 shot penalty as opposed to DQ
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21651 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 2:01 pm to
Good read. Here's the statement I take issue with:

quote:

Only a rare set of facts, akin to the exceptional facts at the 2013 Masters Tournament as summarized in the previous paragraphs, would justify a Committee’s use of its discretion to waive a penalty of disqualification for returning an incorrect score card.


There was nothing rare or exceptional about what happened at the Masters. It was a straightforward ruling that both Tiger and the rules committee fricked up.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
25068 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 2:14 pm to
Well I think it was rare in the fact that not only did the committee frick up, Tiger told on himself in an interview afterwards.
Posted by udtiger
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

He technically should/could have been DQ'd because he signed an incorrect scorecard, but he followed the right protocol. He consulted the rules committee. They gave him the all clear. So he signed the card. It would have been pretty BS to give him the all clear then DQ him.
Posted by threeputt
God's Country
Member since Sep 2008
24791 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 2:23 pm to
I dont think he should have been penalized at all!!!
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

I dont think he should have been penalized at all!!!


Yeah. Also, Tiger shouldn't have to make putts from 2 feet, those are gimmies. He won't miss those. Tiger also should get a free drop out of divots in the fairway. Come on, he hit the ball down the middle like your supposed to, he should get a good lie.
Posted by threeputt
God's Country
Member since Sep 2008
24791 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 2:31 pm to
What did he do that was illegal ???
This post was edited on 5/1/13 at 2:32 pm
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