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Pat yasinkas analysis of the NFC south draft

Posted on 4/28/13 at 7:10 am
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23482 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 7:10 am
Not a fan of KV selection and labels it a risky move which I agree with. . He said we should have selected Jarvis

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The Saints are hoping that safety Kenny Vaccaro can help improve the NFL's worst defense last season. I’m not knocking the Saints’ selection of Vaccaro. He has a great skill set, and he’s going to make a secondary that needed help much better. But I do have to question the wisdom of taking a safety with their first pick.


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Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 7:12 am to
Meh. He had to say one thing about each team in a predetermined format.

Fact is, safety is less risky than olb.
Posted by coldhotwings
Mississippi
Member since Jan 2008
6497 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 7:15 am to
Other that playing on a soft defense, I don't think Vaccaro is a bad player. The reasoning for so many of us to not like this pick is pretty well said by Yasinkas:

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New Orleans is in the process of switching from a 4-3 defense to a 3-4 scheme. That means you have to have the right personnel for the 3-4, and I’m not sure the Saints have that. The key to a 3-4 scheme is having an edge pass-rusher. The Saints could have had outside linebacker Jarvis Jones, who was a productive rusher in college, at No. 15, but they passed on him and took Vaccaro. That was New Orleans’ one big chance to get a pass-rusher because the Saints have been limited as to what they were able to do in free agency by the salary cap


If we weren't transitioning to a 3-4, I'd like this pick a lot more.

Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
THE REAL MJ
Member since Jan 2007
22128 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 7:21 am to
While he may be right Pat has had an agend with the Saints for a couple years now. He's in love with Atlanta and hasn't had much positive to say about te Saints since the Super Bowl
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 7:44 am to
Ya sinks says the Saints were guilty in bountygate. frick him.
Posted by coldhotwings
Mississippi
Member since Jan 2008
6497 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 7:46 am to
I thought that was Prisco.
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 7:52 am to
I cant stand Pat yansisuckass!

Most biased reporter on espn
This post was edited on 4/28/13 at 7:53 am
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77538 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 7:56 am to
I haven't listened to much Pat has had to say in a while, and I'm not going to start now. I haven't seen many other people have this opinion, other than some scattered tards in this board.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10232 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 9:09 am to
The Saints need help in the secondary as much as they need a good pass rusher, so for me it's a toss up.
Posted by adono
River Ridge
Member since Sep 2003
7307 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 9:13 am to
I've completely given up on this FO being able to draft starters in the first round. They consistently go against the stream and get their asses burned every time.

Defensive players with the first pick in 7 straight drafts and not a star in the bunch (jury is out on KV as he hasn't played a single down).

They need to change how they're doing business...what they're doing isn't working.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64029 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 9:42 am to
Wow writing cam Jordan off a bit quick aren't you.

The preconceived idea that we were a shoe in to take Jones is hilarious.
Posted by StarSaint
lafayette
Member since Nov 2006
7490 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 9:48 am to
Meh, had we taken Jones his article would have sounded something like this..

"Saints take a pass rushing linebacker who has question marks while they still neglect to address the safety position".

Posted by lighter345
Member since Jan 2009
11863 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 9:54 am to
Haha Pat says plenty of nice things about us. Sometimes we need to not look for the hate in everything.
Posted by LooseCannon22282
Mobile
Member since May 2008
33661 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 10:14 am to
quote:

The preconceived idea that we were a shoe in to take Jones is hilarious.


that was the reason I thought we'd end up not getting him

I mean I wanted us to get him but over the years, the Saints rarely get the guy we all had in mind.

I guess maybe we would have gotten Star if the Panthers had passed on him.
This post was edited on 4/28/13 at 10:15 am
Posted by kclsufan
Show Me
Member since Jun 2008
12092 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 10:25 am to
quote:

New Orleans is in the process of switching from a 4-3 defense to a 3-4 scheme. That means you have to have the right personnel for the 3-4, and I’m not sure the Saints have that.

Yeah well neither am I since I haven't seen these Saints actually play in a 34. I'm sure the first thing Ryan was told to do when he got to NO was to evaluate the current roster and see who fit in a 34 scheme, which I'm sure included our LB's. Plus we acquired Butler from the cowgirls.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64066 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 10:29 am to
quote:

Yeah well neither am I since I haven't seen these Saints actually play in a 34.


I don't care for Pat Y much either but he is right on this.

I would not even try to project the starting line up on the def. side of the ball before a few weeks of camp.
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 10:35 am to
And we have pass rushers. It's not like we were devoid of them and are now screwed. We have players that fit the scheme already.

Much like some posters here, Yas just doesn't get it.
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 10:38 am to
quote:

Meh, had we taken Jones his article would have sounded something like this..

"Saints take a pass rushing linebacker who has question marks while they still neglect to address the safety position".
Yup. He routinely finds was to negatively criticize most of the moves we make.

Risky? It would have been far more risky to take a guy with medical issues and a poor work ethic. Vaccaro was the safe pick. The risk about not having guys for the scheme is false. Sure you can always use more pass rushers, but the cupboard is far from bare.
This post was edited on 4/28/13 at 10:39 am
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66277 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 10:53 am to
quote:

And we have pass rushers. It's not like we were devoid of them and are now screwed. We have players that fit the scheme already.


We have a guy who has never played LB a guy who has switched positions twice in two years and a guy that was the third option on the cowboys. None f those guys are s sure thing and each could end up being middle of the road. Of course jones could too but Luke you feel better taking flu chances at a star pass rusher than 3? And wouldn't you feel better with to if th having 3-4 experience instead of 1? Wouldn't you feel better investing more into a much higher impact position?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64066 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 10:54 am to
quote:

Risky? It would have been far more risky to take a guy with medical issues and a poor work ethic.


Was just gonna post this
How the hell does he claim Vacarro to be moreof a risk than JJ?
Dude writes out his arse sometimes. Our pic at 15 is the very essence of a "safe pic".
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