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will hicks play DE?
Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:53 pm
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:56 pm to titleist71
In three man fronts, I do think the the pick up of Jenkins will lead to him spending more time at LDE. Will move inside (probably with Jordan) in 4 man fronts.
Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:56 pm to titleist71
I think he will be a perfect fit for a 3-4 DE him, Jenkins, and Jordan could be a solid group
Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:57 pm to titleist71
They'll play him all over the place I think. But they're definitely training him to be a defensive end eventually.
Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:58 pm to titleist71
I hope so... 
Posted on 4/27/13 at 12:00 am to titleist71
He'll play NT and DE. Payton said he'll primarily be a NT but will be cross trained.
I do think the hope is he'll replace Smith next year. But for this year he'll likely be the primary rotation for Bunkley and Smith. Having Jenkins doesn't change that. Jenkins will likely be in on run downs and against run heavy teams and when we are getting gashed. He's not NFL ready as a 3 down NT.
I do think the hope is he'll replace Smith next year. But for this year he'll likely be the primary rotation for Bunkley and Smith. Having Jenkins doesn't change that. Jenkins will likely be in on run downs and against run heavy teams and when we are getting gashed. He's not NFL ready as a 3 down NT.
This post was edited on 4/27/13 at 12:06 am
Posted on 4/27/13 at 12:03 am to THRILLHO
quote:Ryan doesn't do many 4 man fronts. He is different from GW in that he doesn't switch his base too much.
In three man fronts, I do think the the pick up of Jenkins will lead to him spending more time at LDE. Will move inside (probably with Jordan) in 4 man fronts.
Now he will do some stuff like 1-5-5 and 3-3-5 in passing situations.
Posted on 4/27/13 at 12:25 am to bonethug0108
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Payton said he'll primarily be a NT but will be cross trained.
That was before they traded two 4th rounders to take a true NT. Bunkley and Jenkins are the primary NTs while Hicks will see most of his time at DE where he belongs.
Posted on 4/27/13 at 12:36 am to Jwho77
Jenkins is not an NFL ready 3 down NT. Hicks will still be the primary backup at NT and DE. Jenkins will be a run sub.
Posted on 4/27/13 at 12:37 am to bonethug0108
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Jenkins is not an NFL ready 3 down NT. Hicks will still be the primary backup at NT and DE. Jenkins will be a run sub.
Jenkins is more NFL ready that Hicks was coming out of college in Canada just a year ago. Jenkins is ready to contribute at NT now as long as he is in shape.
Posted on 4/27/13 at 12:41 am to Jwho77
False. Hicks was going to LSU before that stuff happened. All indications were that he was a 3 down NFL ready DT. He had the ability to rush and stop the run.
Jenkins has very little rush ability.
Jenkins has very little rush ability.
Posted on 4/27/13 at 12:44 am to bonethug0108
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Jenkins is not an NFL ready 3 down NT. Hicks will still be the primary backup at NT and DE. Jenkins will be a run sub.
He's not supposed to be. Bunkley for 1st and 2nd down, especially run plays, with Jenkins on 3rd down passing attempts. He's actually a good pass rusher
Posted on 4/27/13 at 12:44 am to bonethug0108
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False. Hicks was going to LSU before that stuff happened. All indications were that he was a 3 down NFL ready DT. He had the ability to rush and stop the run.
Jenkins has very little rush ability.
Yes, he was going to LSU. But he didn't and missed that developmental time. Even though we all loved Hicks' play this year, he is still raw and doesn't have any pass rush moves yet. Meanwhile, Jenkins played for an SEC-title level defense and is a physical, ready-to-play nose tackle. He actually pushed the pocket quite well in a defense designed to free up outside playmakers like Jarvis Jones. Hicks has more potential as a game-breaking guy up front, but Jenkins is ready to play as a space eater.
Posted on 4/27/13 at 12:45 am to bonethug0108
I don't think Hicks has ever played NT in a 3-4 while Jenkins was a pretty dominant one at UGA.
Posted on 4/27/13 at 12:55 am to coldhotwings
On the no pass rush thing, he had 6.5 sacks his second college year and showed plenty of penetration in the few snaps he had last year. To say he has no pass rush is blatantly false.
Actually here is a snippet about him:
"Hicks projects to be a third-down, pass-rusher type at first, with the potential to develop into an every-down player"
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It was the run he was questionable with and he seemed to do well with that in college(44 tackles in his second season) and with us.
I'll give you he may not have played NT, but as I've been saying Bunkley and Hicks are the type of NT Ryan likes. Jenkins is going to be the run stopping specialist.
Actually here is a snippet about him:
"Hicks projects to be a third-down, pass-rusher type at first, with the potential to develop into an every-down player"
LINK
It was the run he was questionable with and he seemed to do well with that in college(44 tackles in his second season) and with us.
I'll give you he may not have played NT, but as I've been saying Bunkley and Hicks are the type of NT Ryan likes. Jenkins is going to be the run stopping specialist.
Posted on 4/27/13 at 12:59 am to bonethug0108
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as I've been saying Bunkley and Hicks are the type of NT Ryan likes
And it has been discussed on this board a lot already how only really Ratliff in Dallas fits that description of "what Ryan likes" from his stops. Ryan inherited a rare breed small standout and used him because he is smart enough to build the defense around the talent. The Saints didn't trade two fourth rounders to take a guy who will not play a lot more snaps quickly at NT than Hicks will. Hicks, on the other hand, is clearly exciting as a DE in the 3-4 with his versatile skill set.
This post was edited on 4/27/13 at 1:03 am
Posted on 4/27/13 at 7:52 am to titleist71
I don't care. Just get him on the field.
Posted on 4/27/13 at 8:02 am to Patrick O Rly
We've built a potentially very solid stable of yound d lineman for a 3-4
Posted on 4/27/13 at 8:06 am to THRILLHO
We will finally have youth and speed at the DE positions with Hicks and Jordan. How many times have we seen teams run their RB at the middle and then bounce it out to the outside 
Add Jenkins at NT and Quicker OLB's and you hope to get a huge improvement in the run def.
Add Jenkins at NT and Quicker OLB's and you hope to get a huge improvement in the run def.Posted on 4/27/13 at 9:13 am to St Augustine
We are close to preseason paper champs
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