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For those that think some LSU guys should have stayed

Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:24 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:24 pm
2 words: Matt Barkley.

Coming back does not guarantee getting drafted higher, a big year can help, maybe a guy like Simon could have benefited from a big year, but for the most part, players won't get bigger or faster and that, more than anything determines where a guy gets drafted.
Posted by Bear Is Dead
Monroe
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:26 pm to
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Posted by silstang23
Bossier City, LA
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:27 pm to
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Posted by plance
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
1589 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:27 pm to
Will miss the guys that left, and we'll probably feel it this year, but for the most part, I would have to agree.
Posted by Geauxt1499
Washington DC
Member since Jan 2013
351 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:28 pm to
Ya but Barkley was ready to come out, Chris Faulk isn't.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
38994 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:29 pm to
quote:

Coming back does not guarantee getting drafted higher,


This is dead on. A lot of people mindlessly think another year automatically pays off. It usually makes no difference. Faulk is the only exception this year.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:29 pm to
overrated like most USC qb's, been hyped as a sure thing for the nfl since the 8th grade
Posted by Sterling Archer
Austin
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:29 pm to
Agreed, coming back doesn't always mean more money
Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
20449 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:30 pm to
Yeah.

Eta: how much would Ware's stock have improved playing one more year in the same offense as Hilliard, Hill, and Blue?

This post was edited on 4/26/13 at 10:37 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59039 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:38 pm to
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overrated like most USC qb's, been hyped as a sure thing for the nfl since the 8th grade


Ryan Tannehill went #8 last year, after the year he had in 2011 Barkley certainly would have gone before the 4th.

quote:

A lot of people mindlessly think another year automatically pays off. It usually makes no difference. Faulk is the only exception this year.


exactly, players are not going to get bigger and faster and there will be a new crop of jrs to go high.

I can see it both ways for Faulk. Guys have been drafted that were hurt before. The most dramatic examples being Sam Bradford and Willis McGhee. It was a risk for Faulk to come out, but it was also a risk for him to stay. It's his life. I think he will be drafted and if he does, he can make a team just as easily as he could have had a big year at LSU.
Posted by dred24
In the south
Member since Nov 2006
1214 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:39 pm to
I agree that Barkley should have come out last year, but I'm not sure how this makes your point. He was going to be a first round pick if he came out, but he didnt and now he is a later pick.
These LSU guys are not early round picks and they are still coming out.
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Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:43 pm to
quote:

These LSU guys are not early round picks and they are still coming out.



quote:

how much would Ware's stock have improved playing one more year in the same offense as Hilliard, Hill, and Blue?

Posted by dred24
In the south
Member since Nov 2006
1214 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:47 pm to
I agree that some/most of them could not have improved their stock with 1 more year but how does that in anyway compare to Barkley?
Posted by ValentiTiger
Prairieville
Member since Aug 2008
665 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:50 pm to
quote:

2 words: Matt Barkley


Mark Sanchez, Matt Leinart, Carson Palmer.... Maybe the NFL is learning their lessons on these over hyped USC QB's who play poo competition all year to stack up their numbers.
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:51 pm to
quote:

2 words: Matt Barkley.
The knocks on him lowered his stock THIS year, in a weaker QB class, but not last year in a much stronger QB class??? The knocks are more physical than mental. They couldn't have changed.
Does not compute.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:53 pm to
Matt Barkley what?

Barkley didn't fall, Barkley was artificially inflated by the media. He'll get drafted right where he should have.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56161 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:59 pm to
quote:

but for the most part, players won't get bigger or faster and that, more than anything determines where a guy gets drafted.


Team needs trump this if you use Barkley as your example.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26579 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:59 pm to
No Barkely would have went in the top 10 last year because the projected him right behing RG3 and Luck. As a matter of fact, the Dolphins would have picked him. They were winning games and he was putting up the stats. When they fell off this year, he got the blame like Geno and they started grilling about his arm strength and deep ball accuracy.
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:02 pm to
That's stupid. Putting up stats doesn't mean your arm strength is any better. He would've been exposed at the Combine and workouts just like he was this year.
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