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Used Car Negotiating Help

Posted on 4/26/13 at 1:34 pm
Posted by LETSGEAUX2
Member since Oct 2012
461 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 1:34 pm
Hey guys, can you give me a couple of ideas on what we can expect to knock off a used Honda Accord? I'm posting a link but this is just an example. I really don't want to play games but how do I know a hard number I can walk in and tell them? How do you find their invoice price?

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Posted by OnTheBrink
TN
Member since Mar 2012
5428 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 1:39 pm to
Will Cover had excellent car buying tips that I copied and emailed to myself for the next time I am in the market. See below.

quote:

I'm going to go ahead and help you. Read this and then re-read it. If you do what I list below, you will get a great deal.

1. Arm yourself with information. LINK / , LINK / , LINK and LINK are excellent sites to research the vehicle of your choice (Invoice vs. MSRP, manufacturer rebates, dealer holdback, etc.)
2. Never show emotion even when going for a test drive (do NOT provide dealer with your driver’s license). Instead, prior to your arrival at the dealership, make a copy of your driver’s license and furnish the dealer with the copy of your driver’s license.
3. Never show emotion when negotiating.
4. Never offer or accept the first price.
5. Start off negotiations by saying “that’s not good enough.”
6. Never offer a counter price.
7. Silence is golden. When in doubt, shut up and you will pay less.
8. Know what power you possess by being able to “walk away.”
9. Never negotiate off “MSRP.” The negotiation process should start from the DEALER COST (which is less than INVOICE) price or the WHOLESALE price if purchasing a USED vehicle.
10. Rebates can be deducted from INVOICE price and not MSRP as the dealership will lead you to believe.
11. Know the dealer’s “hold-back” price and what type of incentives that may be offered from the manufacturer or dealership.
12. Don’t discuss a trade-in until you’ve settled on a price for the car you’re buying – each transaction should be separate and not dependent upon one another.
13. Settle on the price of the vehicle you’re interested in before you bring up financing — don’t let the rate of a loan influence the price of the car.
14. Have your financing pre-approved before you walk into a dealership.
15. Extended warranties never make financial sense.
16. Be aware of “extra” charges such as administrative fees, handling charges, advertising fees, paint protection, VIN etching – simply do not pay these as these are deal breakers. And believe it or not, even “delivery” charges are negotiable.
17. Get the deal in writing. Full disclosure, in writing, of all fees pertaining to your vehicle purchase, such as destination, title, documentation, licensing and registration. If the dealer will not put it in writing, “walk away.”
18. The “If I” sales tactic. This is the last step in the sales negotiation process. Ex. If I decide to purchase the vehicle today, you have to include free window tinting. If I decide to take the red vehicle instead of the white vehicle, you have to include 5 free oil and tire rotation services. If I decide to purchase the vehicle today, you have to include floor mats at no additional cost. If done correctly, this will allow you to get another “service and/or product” that you normally would not have received and by this time, there is no way will the dealership allow you to “walk” because there is too much time invested between both parties. The dealership knows you are in a buying mode and doesn’t want to run the risk of you becoming a “be back” customer for another dealership since most people buy within 48 hours of stepping onto a dealership’s lot.
19. Put deposits on a “credit card” only. Do NOT pay with a check.
20. If you got a great deal, show your appreciation. Thank the dealer and be sure to send your friends to them when they go car shopping.
This post was edited on 4/26/13 at 1:39 pm
Posted by OnTheBrink
TN
Member since Mar 2012
5428 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 1:40 pm to
Links for #1 are broken.

They are:

LINK

LINK

LINK

LINK
Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
11858 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 1:40 pm to
haha, I came here to post that same thread:


LINK
Posted by OnTheBrink
TN
Member since Mar 2012
5428 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by LETSGEAUX2
Member since Oct 2012
461 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 2:24 pm to
Those links don't provide a lot of help. Can the bank tell me what an invoice is if I give the vin #?

Normally, what can you expet to knock off the MSRP, 5%? 10%?
Posted by wmtiger69
west monroe
Member since Nov 2007
997 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 3:20 pm to
According to Manheim website one with similiar miles sold for $20,000 through the auction in Tampa. The new car store will normally add anywhere from 500-1000 lot fee.

I'd offer 21,500 and see what happens.

It also depends on how long they've had the car in inventory. Obviously the longer they've had it, the more willing they will be to negotiate.

Good luck.
Posted by AutoYes_Clown
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2012
5368 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

Those links don't provide a lot of help. Can the bank tell me what an invoice is if I give the vin #?

Normally, what can you expet to knock off the MSRP, 5%? 10%?


There is no set number to knock off. The bank will tell you what they loan to you based on basic condition, possible resale, and risk of purchase.

What make/model/mileage are you looking for?
Posted by LETSGEAUX2
Member since Oct 2012
461 posts
Posted on 4/27/13 at 8:55 pm to
Looking for a 2011-12 Accord with under 25000 miles. If i get the invoice, what should I offer from there?
Posted by bthomp1
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2009
674 posts
Posted on 4/27/13 at 11:59 pm to
There's no invoice cost on a used car. No like used car is "owned" for the same price as another. Just buy the car at a price that you feel like is a good deal. Don't over think it all
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