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IG Markets open a Bitcoin binary options market

Posted on 4/25/13 at 9:47 am
Posted by joshnorris14
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 9:47 am
Posted by Poodlebrain
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:48 am to
Do you understand what binaries are? They allow you to bet on the market price of Bitcoins without ever actually investing in Bitcoins. In other words, they are more like gambling than investing. You place your bet whether or not some specific condition will be satisfied. The result is either yes you win your bet, or no you lose.
Posted by ZereauxSum
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:54 am to
So this is basically "Intrade" for bitcoin?

IMO, something like this just makes it seem like less of a currency and more of an instrument for speculation.
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:55 am to
And the last I researched this type of operation, it is illegal in the U.S., not that something as unimportant as breaking the law matters to Josh and wiki....
Posted by Broke
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 11:32 am to
It's almost like he sees a Bitcoin headline and thinks "Hey I'll post this and see what happens"
Posted by Poodlebrain
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 11:52 am to
You could conceivably purchase a binary that the price will rise to a certain level that will result in a huge payout. Then you go to one of the Bitcoin exchanges and make bids at prices above your binary target. This allows you to leverage manipulation of the Bitcoin market.
Posted by C
Houston
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 11:59 am to
As small a market as bit coins are it would not be difficult to influence.

Edit: forgot to add the "not"

Sorry :iphoneproblems:
This post was edited on 4/25/13 at 12:26 pm
Posted by Poodlebrain
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 12:15 pm to
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As small a market as bit coins are it would be difficult to influence.
Actually, it is just the opposite. You can more easily influence a market with lower volume since your actions will have a greater influence in proportion to the total.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 12:15 pm to
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As small a market as bit coins are it would be difficult to influence.



I would think the opposite would be true. I would say that one person could significantly influence the price of bitcoin a lot easier than someone could influence the price of larger market commodities.


Binary option trading is already on regulator shite lists, because it isn't investing, it's gambling.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:12 pm to
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Do you understand what binaries are


It's not exactly hard to understand.

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In other words, they are more like gambling than investing.


This is bullshite. It's a way for people in the UK to short bitcoin right now.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45194 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:14 pm to
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And the last I researched this type of operation, it is illegal in the U.S.


Right. But, again, the U.S. doesn't account for the entire bitcoin economy. You understand that, right?

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not that something as unimportant as breaking the law matters to Josh and wiki....



Breaking immoral or unnecessary laws is no vice.
Posted by Broke
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:18 pm to
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Breaking immoral or unnecessary laws is no vice.


So people get to pick and choose which laws they break now? No wonder this stuff interests you.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45194 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:25 pm to
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So people get to pick and choose which laws they break now?


Isn't this how the world works?

There is no supreme prevention. Everyone gets to choose whether they break a law or not, do you not agree with this?
This post was edited on 4/25/13 at 1:26 pm
Posted by Broke
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:26 pm to
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Everyone gets to choose whether they break a law or not, do you not agree with this?


Absolutely 1000% agree with you. On my way to rob some banks right now.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:27 pm to
If you disagree with property ownership, by all means, be my guest.
Posted by acgeaux129
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:30 pm to
Yeah, it's bullshite to liken this to gambling as opposed to investing. You are smart.
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:32 pm to
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Yeah, it's bullshite to liken this to gambling as opposed to investing.


Have we been propagandized enough to where people don't inherently think investing is a form a gambling? If so, success! Huzzah!

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126935 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:36 pm to
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the U.S. doesn't account for the entire bitcoin economy. You understand that, right?
What I understand is you are an ignorant little prick who wears beanies in the spring because you think it makes you look cool and who has totally fricked up the Money Talk Board with your political shite.
This post was edited on 4/25/13 at 1:37 pm
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45194 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:37 pm to
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What I understand is you are an ignorant little prick who has totally fricked up the Money Talk Board with your political shite.


I believe you're the person who brought up political shite in this thread.
Posted by Broke
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:37 pm to
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Have we been propagandized enough to where people don't inherently think investing is a form a gambling?


If you believe that betting 10k on red and buying $10,000 worth of Exxon is the same thing, you have bigger issues.
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