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re: Projections for EG 2013-14

Posted on 4/19/13 at 9:34 am to
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 9:34 am to
No way GSW makes a deal like that. After the year they had, I don't see them going backwards. No way they're giving up BOTH Thompson and Barnes. Most likely, the only guy they're considering to move is Thompson and that is going to tough considering that they really value him.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61408 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 9:36 am to
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Either way, too much garbage.


Beggars can't be choosers. If Driveman is right then the team will be looking to move Gordon this summer. Many of Demps' moves have seemed to come out of nowhere, so I'd be happy if he could come up with something better, but looking at realistic options this offseason this garbage trade may be the best you'll get. And the extra expiring for the 2014 pick isn't necessary, that's just something I am partial to, especially if the Warriors are hitching their wagon to Curry, Gordon and Bogut. I think Demps/Monty/Benson need to Win Now too much to take on an expiring for another draft pick.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61408 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 9:43 am to
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No way they're giving up BOTH Thompson and Barnes


That's why I said the Pelicans need the Warriors to make the 2nd round without much contribution from them. If they get that far without them then that probably means Jack and Landry played well. They can't afford to keep Jack and Landry next season with Curry's raise.

Now that I think about it I was wrong in my last post, I think taking both expirings is an essential part of the deal. The Warriors get to replace Thompson and Barnes with Gordon and say Shabazz while getting the cap space to keep Jack and Landry. I think Golden State would be all over that deal if they thought Gordon was worth the risk. Without a deal like that they will take a step backwards because they'll lose Jack and Landry.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 9:50 am to
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Isn't he expected to get paid in the $8 - $10 million range?


If that's it, I would swap him for Gordon without a doubt.

It's tough to tell much about him with how terrible the Kings organization, coaching, and roster construction have been. He's a flawed player, but he's still good. Will he get better in a functional organization (btw so nice to type that after the last few years)?

Evans can't hit the 3 or get to the line like Gordon, but he is a better rebounder and passer. They seem to be fairly similar players and the Hornets get to save money and dump a guy who's been a headache.

Here's what I see if they are thinking about this:

They can still move Vasquez/Lopez if they want. They can still draft BPA. And they have more cap space to fill roster holes.

That said, your GS deal for Gordon looks nice too. Thompson/Barnes/Davis/Anderson is a VERY interesting core. Need a creator, but that should be easy to fins with those options all over the court. And banking on bad luck for the Warriors is always smart.

Sidenote- Thompson and Anderson both shot over 38% from 3 on over 6 3PA/game this season. Only been about 25 guys in NBA history who have done that
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115268 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 9:54 am to
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If Driveman is right


And let's face it... no one can deny him at this point, in light of the past (and yesterday).

At first I looked at that deal and was like: hell no.

Now I look at it and its not the end of the world. Two players, one that has proven to be a very effective scorer, the other with a lot of potential. The other contracts suck, but I didn't think we would get an elite talent in FA this year. It does set us up for next year's FA...when we might be knocking on the door of a high level team with talent like AD, Thompson, Barnes, Rivers, etc all hitting their stride.

I hate to give up that #5 pick though, even in a weak draft.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115268 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 9:56 am to
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If that's it, I would swap him for Gordon without a doubt.


Well, considering Tyreke Evans sucks at pretty much any price, I'll disagree.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34217 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 10:00 am to
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no one can deny him at this point, in light of the past (and yesterday).



Qua?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115268 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 10:02 am to
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Qua?


Released several of the games and dates on the Saints schedule hours before the schedule came out.

There's no denying it at this point. He knows someone close to the Benson's and both organizations.

His douche persona makes it hard, but there is no denying it. He's the most legit insider for Saints and Hornets news on the interwebz.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 10:09 am to
LINK

Per36 numbers are almost identical. Gordon is a better shooter and more efficient scorer, Evans has better rebounding and assist rates.

If they want to dump Gordon, this is a good return.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115268 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 10:12 am to
The numbers say what they say and I can't argue with that.

All I can argue is that I've seen Tyreke play and I hate his game.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 10:13 am to
Fair enough
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