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re: Western Union, MoneyGram execs: opportunity for bitcoin to be used through WU/MG

Posted on 4/19/13 at 7:57 pm to
Posted by gizmoflak
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 7:57 pm to
Well, this thread is now beyond ridiculous
















25 CC tokens or 1 BTC?
Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 7:58 pm to
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So it requires constant vigilence on the part of a user to prevent law enforcement from being able to trace a Bitcoin wallet owner. Doesn't that erode the convenience of using Bitcoins to conduct transactions as efforts must be made to avoid detection? It kind of rules out spontaneous purchases.


Tor + encrypted wallet



There, was that so hard?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 8:00 pm to
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Well, this thread is now beyond ridiculous
















25 CC tokens or 1 BTC?



I gave you a perfectly logical answer. I can't win the Plush toy with only 25 CC tokens, so with my chances of lonely milf poon diminished, I'd take the BTC. You Heartless bastard
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 8:01 pm to
quote:

So it requires constant vigilence on the part of a user to prevent law enforcement from being able to trace a Bitcoin wallet owner. Doesn't that erode the convenience of using Bitcoins to conduct transactions as efforts must be made to avoid detection? It kind of rules out spontaneous purchases.


Do you believe in the concept of guilty beyond a reasonable doubt?

Do you believe in the concept of innocent until proven guilty?


If so, tell me how you conclusively prove a person controlled a certain bitcoin address. Because to be honest, it would seem to me like there would always be room for reasonable doubt with such a system.
Posted by WikiTiger
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 8:03 pm to
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Tor + encrypted wallet



There, was that so hard?


Right.

Just because it's hard for them, doesn't mean it's hard for everyone. I'm sorry that they are tech-illiterate, but not everyone is. And the people who have a need to hide their activities will certainly take the 30 minutes to learn how to utilize those technologies.

Not only that, but added functionality is being added to bitcoin as we speak to make it anonymous by default: Zerocoin: making Bitcoin anonymous



Here's a fact of life that Poodlebrain needs to accept: Technology will move faster than the state.
Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 8:04 pm to
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If so, tell me how you conclusively prove a person controlled a certain bitcoin address. Because to be honest, it would seem to me like there would always be room for reasonable doubt with such a system.


Authorities would have to intercept a transaction as it happens. But it is trivial to encrypt it so that the transmission, even if intercepted, would be secure
Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 8:06 pm to
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I gave you a perfectly logical answer. I can't win the Plush toy with only 25 CC tokens, so with my chances of lonely milf poon diminished, I'd take the BTC. You Heartless bastard


I apologize. 25 tokens was a bit stingy of me.











43 CC tokens or 1 BTC?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 8:06 pm to
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Just because it's hard for them, doesn't mean it's hard for everyone. I'm sorry that they are tech-illiterate, but not everyone is. And the people who have a need to hide their activities will certainly take the 30 minutes to learn how to utilize those technologies.



Sure, it's as simple as doing Chinese Algebra while having a pine cone shoved up your arse.
This post was edited on 4/19/13 at 8:08 pm
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 8:07 pm to
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43 CC tokens or 1 BTC?



Oh, I could make it happen with 43 CC tokens.

43 CC
Posted by Poodlebrain
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 8:11 pm to
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Here's a fact of life that Poodlebrain needs to accept: Technology will move faster than the state.
Really? Who was first to network computers? Who developed GPS? Who used computers for encyphering and decyphering messages first? Sometimes the state makes use of technology first. And that is a fact of life you had better not forget if you want to ignore the laws of the state.
Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 8:12 pm to
Cool. I happen to have 43 tokens right here in front of me!

They are for sale for 1 bitcoin, or alternatively $100.

Deal?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126942 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 8:12 pm to
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I'm sorry that they are tech-illiterate, but not everyone is

Those thousands of bitcoin owners who have had their bitcoins stolen along with the two exchanges which have shut down after having had all of their customers bitcoins stolen say you're wrong.

If the technology is so inconvenient to use that the average user does not want to employ the process, then it doesn't matter how tech savvy the user is. That makes the process itself shitty and useless.

You fail again. As usual.
Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
11659 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 8:16 pm to
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Those thousands of bitcoin owners who have had their bitcoins stolen along with the two exchanges which have shut down after having had all of their customers bitcoins stolen say you're wrong.

If the technology is so inconvenient to use that the average user does not want to employ the process, then it doesn't matter how tech savvy the user is. That makes the process itself shitty and useless.


I've said in previous threads that bitcoin needs a "Napsterization" -- i.e. a platform developed for it that is accessible and easy to use by the masses.

I do not think that is too far off
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 8:18 pm to
You're just too tech stupid to know what you're talking about. Wiki has already told us bitcoin is as popular as Facebook....
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 8:25 pm to
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Cool. I happen to have 43 tokens right here in front of me!

They are for sale for 1 bitcoin, or alternatively $100.

Deal?



Well here's the thing, My e-wallet was hacked, just now. And since e-wallets and bitcoin accounts aren't FDIC insured, I'm bitcoin bankrupt and there's nothing I coin do abit it.


This post was edited on 4/19/13 at 8:28 pm
Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
11659 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 8:29 pm to
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Well here's the thing, My e-wallet was hacked, just now. And since e-wallets and bitcoin accounts aren't FDIC insured, I'm bitcoin bankrupt and there's nothing I coin do abit it.


So you're too dumb to encrypt your e-wallet?

Do you also leave your front door open at night?
This post was edited on 4/19/13 at 8:30 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 8:31 pm to
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there's nothing I coin do abit it.

ISWYDT.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 8:32 pm to
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So you're too dumb to encrypt your e-wallet?

Do you also leave your front door open at night?



I never had to encrypt buttcoins, bitcoins are too cumbersome
Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
11659 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 8:37 pm to
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I never had to encrypt buttcoins


Of course not. They are worthless. Nobody wants to steal them.


Your bitcoins, on the other hand, are very valuable and worth protecting. It would behoove you to do so.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126942 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 8:40 pm to
If you're so in love with the "very valuable" & always convenient and simple bitcoins, why haven't you bought any?

Put your money where your big mouth is......
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