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re: So I have finally settled on a Smith and Wesson M&P for my first hand gun

Posted on 4/24/13 at 9:21 am to
Posted by Wooly
Member since Feb 2012
13851 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 9:21 am to
Yea.. just too small. I have been told compacts are not the way to go for your first gun... plus I just flat out don't like the way it looks
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
38902 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 9:50 am to
I don't think that gun is considered a compact in the marketplace. The M&P 9c is a subcompact like the P2000sk.

My P2000 is the same size as the USP compact was, and in general I think of it as a compact pistol.



I have since put the large grip on the back so the grip is even fatter. I put my off hand thumb pad on the grip to control recoil and the large back gives me a bit more room. Outside of barrel length it feels like a full size gun.
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14881 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 10:03 am to
I've got a 9c. Love it. I agree that I wouldn't want it in a .40. Too snappy but overall it doesnt feel like a "small" gun
Posted by Wooly
Member since Feb 2012
13851 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 10:39 am to
Maybe for a second one when I cc.

But its going to be in ny night stand. . I want something I will be comfortable with
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14881 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 11:37 am to
i hear ya... definitely get what your comfortable with.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
38902 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 11:52 am to
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I want something I will be comfortable with



I wanted a gun with no safety that's double action only, like the M&P and Glocks, only I wanted a hammer to at least put my thumb on. Mine's technically a hammer fired pistol but it's a precocked version like a striker fired. The hammer always sits down even though the striker is cocked. The hammer visually comes back as you squeeze the trigger then it releases. You can manually hold the hammer down though when you are holstering the gun so nothing happens (even though there is one in the chamber and it is 'cocked').

To me it is what, after tons of research, I'm the most comfortable with. It's my first semi auto as well. I wanted a hammer, even though it's not single action and bobbed to where you can't grab it.

Posted by Wooly
Member since Feb 2012
13851 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 11:53 am to
I'm just worried about getting raped with the pricing
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66368 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 11:55 am to
Gaston, once my 1911 comes in, ill probably start saving and repurchase an HK45CT. Need something I can shoot suppressed for when I turn 21




This post was edited on 4/24/13 at 11:58 am
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6808 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 12:05 pm to
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so what do yall suggest? 9mm or 40?
I'd get a 9mm instead of 40.

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also where do you suggest i make the purchase? i do not want to purchase it online.
Since I don't live in BR, I can't help you w/ local gun stores. My nearest gun store is 50 miles away. I've bought nearly all my guns off the internet, using a local FFL for the transfer. I've been very happy w/ these deals. I've had good experiences w/:
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and what specific ammo do you suggest?
For SD, I carry Remington Golden Saber and Speer Gold Dot. I'm sure there are newer rounds out there, but both of these have solid, proven tracken records in the guns I cc and function 100%. No matter what SD load you use, be sure you've shot it enough to be 100% confident that it'll will function.

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for target practice and HD?
Winchester White Box since that's usually the only thing available at my local WM (on the VERY RARE occasion it's avialable).

If the gun's not going to be used for concealed carry, I'd suggest buying the biggest version of the gun that you shoot the best.

I've seen the Apex trigger mentioned some. My approach to SD guns is like my approach to my profession......I try to avoid needless professional risk and liability. If I'm going to potentially use a gun for self defense, I'm not going to make changes in the factory trigger. From what I've read, I'm concerned that having a non-stock trigger on a gun that's used in a self defense shooting could present a problem for my defense if the shooting ends up in court (possibly criminal, but more likely civil). If I'm not satisfied w/ the trigger as is, I'm going to use a different gun.

Full version of a Maasad Ayoob article w/ lots of good info. LINK /

Brief version: "The two things I would strongly advise against doing and have strongly advised against doing, would be a trigger pull lighter than the factory recommends, and removal or de-activation of a safety device."
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66368 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 12:13 pm to
Posted by Wooly
Member since Feb 2012
13851 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 12:18 pm to
i thought suppressors were not legal?
Posted by PvilleP
Prairieville
Member since Apr 2011
1950 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 12:30 pm to
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i thought suppressors were not legal?


$200 tax stamp, a bunch of paperwork and 9 months to a year waiting, and you can own one.

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you must posses the stamp ANY time you posses the suppressor. So if you go to the range with it, gotta have the stamp on you.

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subject to periodic inspection by the ATF


YOUTUBE VIDEO HOW TO BUY A SUPRESSOR

This post was edited on 4/24/13 at 12:33 pm
Posted by Wooly
Member since Feb 2012
13851 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 12:31 pm to
Thsnks for posting... great info
Posted by Wooly
Member since Feb 2012
13851 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 12:31 pm to
Ill pass.
Posted by Wooly
Member since Feb 2012
13851 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 12:34 pm to
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If the gun's not going to be used for concealed carry, I'd suggest buying the biggest version of the gun that you shoot the best.




Do you mean the 5 inch barell or the 40 of the m&p?

And may I ask why?
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
38902 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 1:01 pm to
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raped with the pricing


If you don't think it offers features other guns don't then by all means I wouldn't buy it. For me though, it did.

It's an ambidextrous hammer fired double action only capable of being cocked with the trigger.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11870 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 2:38 pm to
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but im having trouble finding a realistic price on a new 9mm M&P can anyone help me out in finding pricing on one?


Call Barney's in Lafayette. They have law enforcement pricing and are very friendly. My dad got his M&P40 with 3 mags for... (you're gonna shite)...........................




...$434 before tax. So about $470ish and he was out the door with a brand new M&P40 with 3 magazines. It is literally the best price I've ever seen for M&Ps, even better than Bud's.

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also this is for bapple, how much goes into changing out sites? like putting on night sites?


Well you need a tool or a brass punch set and I have both. If you buy the sights, I'll put them on for you.

Email me if you have questions:

<---0828@gmail.com

And those that doubt the Apex trigger for defensive use, it REALLY makes you that much better of a shot. I want something that is proven and tested, and everyone who has an Apex kit loves it. But there are two different types of "kits" from Apex:

1. Internal parts (sear, RAM, springs, etc) - this uses the factory trigger.

2. Forward set sear and trigger - includes all parts, including a brand new aluminum trigger with very little takeup and very little reset. It is the best trigger.

Here is my review of an M&P with the Apex FSS and trigger:

M&P40

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Do you mean the 5 inch barell or the 40 of the m&p? And may I ask why?


He mainly means a handgun with a long sight radius and a full grip, AKA 4"+ barrel with a full grip. The compact has a 3.5" barrel and a compact grip. While it is a good gun, it's still not the same as a full size.

Full sized guns are just easier to shoot, handle, aim, etc. Smaller guns are more difficult to shoot.
This post was edited on 4/24/13 at 2:40 pm
Posted by Wooly
Member since Feb 2012
13851 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 3:38 pm to
When purchase his m&p?

That's a damn good price
Posted by Wooly
Member since Feb 2012
13851 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 4:53 pm to
just called barneys, no M&P
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22630 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 4:54 pm to
Cabelas had some used ones today. Not sure exactly what caliber, just glanced in the case.
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