- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
Used as Reference by a POS applying for My Company
Posted on 4/11/13 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 4/11/13 at 10:18 pm
So this guy who lives next door to my sister used me as a reference at my company for a position he just recently chose to apply. I have known the guy for years and honestly don't trust him at all. He cheats on his wife and kids, steals materials from construction sites, his work. I mean a really swell dude. Problem is I don't know how to go about handling the situation if I am asked about him. Or even if I should say something regardless. I will see this guy several times a week for a very long time. I feel odd because if asked about him, all of my critiques are on him as a person and not his work performance.
What would some of you guys do?
What would some of you guys do?
This post was edited on 4/11/13 at 10:31 pm
6
Posted on 4/11/13 at 10:32 pm to ragacamps
If asked, just say that although you know him he hadn't consulted you about being a reference and so you won't offer an opinion. That will get the point across pretty well and it probably won't get you in trouble if he finds out.
Oh, and it's "dilemma".
Oh, and it's "dilemma".
Posted on 4/11/13 at 10:36 pm to foshizzle
Yeah I saw that. Sorry, half asleep and not seeing straight.
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:07 am to ragacamps
Without disclosing his characteristics and habits, tell your employer you recommend they not hire him.
Posted on 4/12/13 at 5:53 am to ragacamps
quote:
steals materials from construction sites, his work
I think this has some bearing on his work performance. I dont care if he can hammer a nail if he's taking the case of nails home with him.
Posted on 4/12/13 at 6:54 am to Chris4x4gill2
If asked, you should tell them not to hire him. I would hope you work for an employer that wouldn't tell him that you said that. He will likely just think he didnt get the job
Posted on 4/12/13 at 7:18 am to ragacamps
quote:
What would some of you guys do?
I'd ask myself "Will he add value to my company?" "Will he be an asset, or a liability?"
Answer those questions, and that's what you tell your employer.
Posted on 4/12/13 at 4:31 pm to ragacamps
There are such things as character references.
If pressed just say that he didn't ask you to be a reference, and that you also don't think he would be a good fit. You don't have to totally rat the guy out, but you could convey that from personal experience you know that he has issues with being trustworthy.
If pressed just say that he didn't ask you to be a reference, and that you also don't think he would be a good fit. You don't have to totally rat the guy out, but you could convey that from personal experience you know that he has issues with being trustworthy.
Posted on 4/12/13 at 5:48 pm to Vols&Shaft83
quote:
I'd ask myself "Will he add value to my company?" "Will he be an asset, or a liability?"
I'm guessing that the OP would be asked what kind of person the neighbor is since they've probably never worked together before.
If my boss was about to hire an arse I would tell him exactly that. But that's the kind of relationship we have and I know he'll be discrete. So my answer to the OP would be to base your actions on your relationship with your employer.
Posted on 4/12/13 at 7:20 pm to ZereauxSum
First of all, I would ask the person to please never use you again as a reference without your permission.
If you are asked about him by your superiors, remember that he is going to be a reflection on you, good or bad, right or wrong.
That is why I am very reluctant to recommend someone(especially 'friends') for a job.
I must have a ton of confidence in them to recommend them for a job/position.
GL
If you are asked about him by your superiors, remember that he is going to be a reflection on you, good or bad, right or wrong.
That is why I am very reluctant to recommend someone(especially 'friends') for a job.
I must have a ton of confidence in them to recommend them for a job/position.
GL
Posted on 4/12/13 at 10:14 pm to Chris4x4gill2
The job is sales, not construction. The material he stole was from job sites in his own neighborhood. He stole lumber, tile, sod, etc.. He has stolen multiple expensive things from his current job that was meant for his customers. The guy is just a sleaze ball.
Posted on 4/13/13 at 2:34 am to ragacamps
I would tell your employer that you have never worked with him so you can't give an honset reference to his working ability or habits.
Posted on 4/13/13 at 8:08 pm to bulldog95
Speak on what you know firsthand. If you aren't personally aware of what's going on, don't run your mouth about someone who may just be the subject of neighborhood gossip.
If you are personally aware of it, speak to what you know personally. Prior to that, mention to anyone who asks that you were neither consulted with prior to being used as a reference nor happy over realizing it.
Explain how you know him, what you know of him, and that you weren't consulted about him saying he knew you. But don't repeat gossip if you've heard something and haven't seen something.
If you are personally aware of it, speak to what you know personally. Prior to that, mention to anyone who asks that you were neither consulted with prior to being used as a reference nor happy over realizing it.
Explain how you know him, what you know of him, and that you weren't consulted about him saying he knew you. But don't repeat gossip if you've heard something and haven't seen something.
Posted on 4/13/13 at 8:15 pm to foshizzle
quote:
If asked, just say that although you know him he hadn't consulted you about being a reference and so you won't offer an opinion. That will get the point across pretty well and it probably won't get you in trouble if he finds out.
Very well said, gets the point across without going too far.
Posted on 4/13/13 at 9:35 pm to GFunk
quote:
Speak on what you know firsthand. If you aren't personally aware of what's going on, don't run your mouth about someone who may just be the subject of neighborhood gossip.
I think that gossiping is something women practice. I do not know things as hearsay, rumors etc... I know them as fact. As far as I am concerned, I feel that the man's character is weak. I love the company I work for and hope to grown and climb up the ladder. I do not want this guy hanging over my shoulder. There is no doubt I will, in some way, see an opportunity for my reluctance for his hire to present itself. I am just unsure how to go about this.
Posted on 4/14/13 at 11:33 am to ragacamps
quote:
ragacamps
Let me ask you this since you mentioned it was a sales position. Did the guy list you as a reference on an application or was it casual name-dropping?
It the latter, Then it's probably enough to say you'll offer no opinion of him. If the former, then you should tell them what you know about him since he was dumb enough to give you license to do so.
Posted on 4/14/13 at 12:08 pm to ZereauxSum
quote:
Let me ask you this since you mentioned it was a sales position. Did the guy list you as a reference on an application or was it casual name-dropping?
He put my name down as a reference on the online application and on his resume.
Posted on 4/14/13 at 12:26 pm to ragacamps
quote:
He put my name down as a reference on the online application and on his resume.
That's wild. I've never in my life used someone as a reference without their consent. Beyond being a terrible idea it just seems a little rude to me.
Now that I'm thinking about it, someone has done that to me. It was a teller at a bank I worked at a while ago. We didn't really work together that long but she quit abruptly and a few months later someone left a voicemail asking for a character reference. I never called back.
If you're uncomfortable telling your employer everything about this guy, a simple "Yes I know him and I have no comment" will probably send the message, but like I said, he gave you permission to tell the truth.
Page 1 of 1
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News