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Is the video game industry crashing?

Posted on 4/9/13 at 11:39 pm
Posted by DrSteveBrule
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Posted on 4/9/13 at 11:39 pm
I happened to stumble upon this video last night, and I thought it was very well put together and thought some of you might enjoy it. Looks like it came out about a month ago.

LINK

It's fairly long at about 30 minutes, but it's well worth the time if you're interested in gaming.

It goes over the video game crash of the 80's and why it happened and how it was recovered. It talks about the present and future and if we are headed back in that direction.

The video is pretty damning of EA. Everyone's pretty burned out on that topic but it's still a good video.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 4/9/13 at 11:57 pm to
Not a bad video, some good points.

Lolz @ EA.

I agree with the guy though, developers are either getting lazy or are out of idea's so just pump out sequel after sequel.

Doesn't seem like there is shite for new IP's.

They also predict EA to be out of business within 5-10 years, about right.
This post was edited on 4/10/13 at 12:05 am
Posted by DrSteveBrule
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 12:09 am to
Yeah, there's the occasional game that is truly worth the purchase like Bioshock: Infinite, but you have to wade through a lot of shite to find it.

I thought his best point was how DLC used to be looked down upon, granted for a short period of time, and now it's become the norm, and now there's season passes where you can get 4 DLC's for the price of 3.

What's really happened is that we've become desensitized to what is really a bad business practice that is fricking the industry. We used to get entire expansion packs with extra campaigns and a ton of new maps for $30, and now we get 2 or 3 maps for $15.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 12:18 am to
The end of the video is garbage though, I'm pretty sure both Sony and Microsoft squashed the no used games thing already.

But the points about DLC and Online Passes are valid, they're killing the industry and nothing more than money grabs. I refuse to buy an Online Pass for games, probably the only reason I still play CoD.

I use Gamefly for almost every single game, refuse to pay $60 for a game for the last 2+ years, might have bought 2 games total, both I sold on eBay not long after. Games aren't worth $60 anymore, ontop of them being shitty, and lacking in content that they want you to buy for $10-$15 more EACH. Ridiculous, can go frick themselves before I do that.

I'll rent it, beat the single player, and send it back without ever even considering any DLC or Online Pass purchase.

I can only imagine my frustration if I had sepnt $60 on games like AC3, Far Cry 3, Hitman, etc. Breezed through the single player and back to Gamefly they went, nothing more to them and sure as hell not worth $60 or additional money for DLC and an Online Pass.
Posted by TigerStripes06
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 12:29 am to
AC3 was fricking garbage.
Posted by jefforize
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 12:29 am to
bookmarking for further lulz, tomorrow.

Posted by oauron
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 12:31 am to
The industry is in a pretty bad state, but the video is a little misleading and not entirely correct. Thankfully, the US =/= the world and the growth in smaller markets has really helped all 3 big companies.
Posted by DrSteveBrule
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 12:31 am to
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The end of the video is garbage though, I'm pretty sure both Sony and Microsoft squashed the no used games thing already.


To be fair, he states that they're just rumors and it may or may not be valid, just saying that if it comes to fruition it can hurt the industry.

A lot of the things you stated are why I play PC games now though. Most games that come out are 4-5 Hour single player games that are $60 dollars. It takes all of a month for them to go on sale, and many of them end up half price or cheaper by the end of their first year. If I was primarily a console gamer, I would have a gamefly account no doubt.

The other thing that the video didn't even touch on (maybe briefly with DLC), is that games have also been largely ruined by patching. It's commonplace to release a game unfinished and patch it to a decent place months later.
This post was edited on 4/10/13 at 12:33 am
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

I'm pretty sure both Sony and Microsoft squashed the no used games thing already.
You have to think about when he recorded for that video. It was probably before all of that came out. Considering he quoted an interview, I'd think if the others had come out before he put the video together, he would have used them as well.
Posted by sbr2
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 12:56 pm to
Wasn't the 1983 crash because of oversaturation of the market? I don't think that's the issue here, but the ballooning costs of AAA games will cause some issues.
Posted by oauron
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

but the ballooning costs of AAA games will cause some issues.


The real issue is that the costs of nearly every game have skyrocketed. Very few developers are making low budget or smaller games (non-indie) and of those that are, they're nearly all in Japan.

We've seen the effects of it though. THQ, Midway, and Atari are the three big publishers that are gone, along with around 50 studios since the start of the generation. LINK and the 20 more gone in 2012. LINK
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 2:59 pm to
Wasn't their a poster that worked in the game industry?
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

Wasn't the 1983 crash because of oversaturation of the market?
Partially. It was over saturation of BAD games in the market. The bad severely outweighed the good in terms of quality of the product. Like that video states, everyone and their mother was creating video games back then. Leading to some VERY bad games, and lots of them.
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

Partially. It was over saturation of BAD games in the market. The bad severely outweighed the good in terms of quality of the product. Like that video states, everyone and their mother was creating video games back then. Leading to some VERY bad games, and lots of them.



The only market that really resembles that is the iOS and Android markets, which is why they're kinda stuck where they are as game platforms.
Posted by Antiheroaz
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 4:30 pm to
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