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our children and grandchildren aren't going to care if the debt that we left them was due to tax cuts (not paying for what we spend) or excess spending or both. It is still just debt that we left them. Money we borrow from other countries and steal from their future so we can live like fat cats. This is not the greatest generation it is the most selfish generation.





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it is the most selfish generation.


So far.






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Ace Midnight
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tax cuts


Letting people keep more of what they earn is not a vice. Spending more than is reasonable to collect is the vice.






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Everyone accross the political spectrum understands that. From left wing nut jobs to right wing wackos. We've been borrowing money to pay for this debt for the last 30 years. This didn't just start yesterday. When republicans get in office, they want to increase spending and cut taxes. When Democrats get in office, they want to increase spending and raise taxes. Neither side when it comes down to it wants to pay for it. It would be political suicide. It's going to take courage and comprimise. Clinton did it. Bowles-Simpson is a reasonable Clinton like plan to do it.
Clinton did not do it. He took money from federal trust funds to reduce the deficit, so that it looked like on paper that he was running a surplus. But if you look at the national debt, it went up every year. Clinton was deceiving people.






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boxcar willie
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Letting people keep more of what they earn is not a vice


not paying for what you spend is a vice no matter how you want to spin it.






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Ace Midnight
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not paying for what you spend is a vice no matter how you want to spin it.


I guess that's where we'll just have to leave it. I believe that the government spends too much money. My evidence is the $16+ (really $17) trillion debt, over 1/3 of that coming in just the past 4 years. Also, a projected $850 billion to $1 trillion deficit THIS year, alongside projections of a record year for tax receipts bolsters my argument.

I assume you will argue that the huge deficit, despite record receipts is a further argument for even more taxes and spending, which will be squandered on social engineering and wealth redistribution is the answer?

Is that really what you want to argue?






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Liberal logic: Legalization of making 11 million illegals American citizens.

This will solve the joblessness during this recession we are going through in America! Go Liberals!






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boxcar willie
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I assume you will argue that the huge deficit, despite record receipts is a further argument for even more taxes and spending


federal tax receipts as a % of GDP are at their lowest levels since 1950

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which will be squandered on social engineering and wealth redistribution is the answer?


most of it's being squandered on the military and an aging society


reform the tax code getting rid of all the loopholes put in by lobbyist and bring federal tax reciepts up to the levels , 18.3%, they averaged from 1970 to 2009. Federal tax receipts as a percentage of GDP are very low right now, 15.8%, compared to past history. Cut spending and raise taxes, it's pretty simple.






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