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Is it me or my sights? (Handgun accuracy)
Posted on 4/5/13 at 11:12 am
Posted on 4/5/13 at 11:12 am
I've shot about 350-400 rounds through my SR9c in the last 3 months and I'm consistently low and left (about 1-2" in each direction). I'm right handed and shoot with an offset stance (no clue what the technical name is) if that matters. With a 17 round mag. my average spread is about 6x6" but have on occasion gotten it as tight as 4x4" with 12-15 rounds, and 2-5 flyers. Is this enough practice to determine that I need to adjust my sights, or is this likely something that I need to correct with my grip or trigger motion? Also, my first magazine of any trip to the range seems to be the most accurate, is this common? I'm shooting at about 6-7 yards as I assumed that was the best range practice for home defense scenario; again is this correct?
This post was edited on 4/5/13 at 1:05 pm
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Posted on 4/5/13 at 11:17 am to SpeckledTiger
Probably anticipating recoil. I do the same thing. Trying to break the habit myself.
Posted on 4/5/13 at 11:24 am to SpeckledTiger
if your's low left (if I remember correctly) you are probably not sqeezing the trigger, but jerking it. There is a poster that shows what you are doing based on where your bullets are hitting.
Posted on 4/5/13 at 11:29 am to rompus
I have the same problem.. usually shooting low. I had a Military police officer shoot my gun at the range and he was dead on target with all my guns. So I know it wasn't the sights. I corrected my shooting left to right by by locking my first finger joint and putting lateral pressure on the gun. I also grip tighter with my non trigger hand.
I don't know what the technique is called in terms of locking your finger joint but it helped me because there is less moving parts in your trigger finger. Hard to explain but I use the pad of my finger and push a little outwards to lock the first joint. Then when I pull back I only have one pivot point. It takes a while to get used to.
I don't know what the technique is called in terms of locking your finger joint but it helped me because there is less moving parts in your trigger finger. Hard to explain but I use the pad of my finger and push a little outwards to lock the first joint. Then when I pull back I only have one pivot point. It takes a while to get used to.
Posted on 4/5/13 at 11:30 am to PSU2LSU
Posted on 4/5/13 at 11:35 am to rompus
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rompus
Posted on 4/5/13 at 11:37 am to rompus
Thanks. Based on that, it looks like I'm "tightening fingers". So I guess that means I'm squeezing my hands as I'm pulling the trigger. Makes sense I guess. Now I know what to work on this afternoon.
Posted on 4/5/13 at 11:58 am to SpeckledTiger
I have always been low and left...the women never seemed to complain... 
Posted on 4/5/13 at 12:27 pm to SpeckledTiger
or, if you are using an aluminum rod to clean your barrel and you are letting it scrape/touch the barrel each time you do that it will certainly have an effect. but it's impossible at 350-400 rounds worth unless you have gotten straight up religious about cleaning your gun.
Posted on 4/5/13 at 12:32 pm to baylee252
You're probably squeezing your whole hand instead of just your index finger.
Hold your hand in front of you and act like you're squeezing a trigger. Does just your index finger do most of the moving, or do your other fingers move also?
Recoil anticipation will also cause this.
If you have doubt about the sights, just shoot the gun from a pistol rest next time you're at the range.
Hold your hand in front of you and act like you're squeezing a trigger. Does just your index finger do most of the moving, or do your other fingers move also?
Recoil anticipation will also cause this.
If you have doubt about the sights, just shoot the gun from a pistol rest next time you're at the range.
Posted on 4/5/13 at 12:33 pm to SpeckledTiger
Try holding your pistol sideways, elevating your wrist so that ypu are aiming somewhat down upon your target.
Posted on 4/5/13 at 12:33 pm to SpeckledTiger
If you search around you can find that chart in printable format and use it as your target.
Posted on 4/5/13 at 12:35 pm to baylee252
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I have always been low and left...the women never seemed to complain...
Jerking?
Posted on 4/5/13 at 12:40 pm to Soul Gleaux
Posted on 4/5/13 at 12:42 pm to SpeckledTiger
I had a similar problem, but my groups were 2" at 15. Mine were going to the right, so I figured I'd just start aiming differently. Shot a revolver and the same thing happened, so I had someone watch me.
Before I even shot, he noticed I had way too much of my finger on the trigger and was actually pulling the gun. Fixed my finger and fixed the problem
Seems like you are anticipating the shot and shaking, then holding the trigger incorrectly. Only way to know is to shoot something with low recoil, like a 22, and have someone who knows what they are doing watch you.
Before I even shot, he noticed I had way too much of my finger on the trigger and was actually pulling the gun. Fixed my finger and fixed the problem
Seems like you are anticipating the shot and shaking, then holding the trigger incorrectly. Only way to know is to shoot something with low recoil, like a 22, and have someone who knows what they are doing watch you.
quote:Holy Jesus that was funny
Soul Gleaux
This post was edited on 4/5/13 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 4/5/13 at 12:45 pm to Markmont03
Front sight, front sight, front sight
Besides that the greatest chance is recoil anticipation. Rest the pistol on a bench and slowly depress the trigger while focusing on the front sight and see where it goes when the trigger breaks.
Pistol accuracy will barely be affected by a dirty gun. Tolerances in the barrel aren't nearly as tight in pistols as it is in rifles. Powder and copper fouling will barely affect accuracy. I have a feeling it's you and not the gun.
Besides that the greatest chance is recoil anticipation. Rest the pistol on a bench and slowly depress the trigger while focusing on the front sight and see where it goes when the trigger breaks.
Pistol accuracy will barely be affected by a dirty gun. Tolerances in the barrel aren't nearly as tight in pistols as it is in rifles. Powder and copper fouling will barely affect accuracy. I have a feeling it's you and not the gun.
Posted on 4/5/13 at 12:51 pm to rompus
Thanks rompus - I was going to post that.
I haven't used them much, yet, but I think they can go a long way in helping a shooter what is happening immediately prior to discharge.
I haven't used them much, yet, but I think they can go a long way in helping a shooter what is happening immediately prior to discharge.
Posted on 4/5/13 at 1:03 pm to bapple
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I have a feeling it's you and not the gun.
As do I.
I'll try focusing a more on just moving my trigger finger, and see if that helps.
Posted on 4/5/13 at 1:19 pm to SpeckledTiger
Don't focus too much, or you will over-think and make mistakes. Seems counterintuitive, but that's what happened with me when I started getting into long range shooting a while back. I was over-thinking and would end up making shitty shots
Just get your fundamental set-up correct, and it should fall into place. Nothing helps more than someone watching you shoot
Just get your fundamental set-up correct, and it should fall into place. Nothing helps more than someone watching you shoot
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