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re: what's the story on Bluefin Tuna in the Gulf?

Posted on 4/4/13 at 10:39 pm to
Posted by gaetti15
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 10:39 pm to
That's what I suppose as well. Just a thought.
Posted by JasonL79
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:12 pm to
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Even when we caught them there was no money for them I always heard it was due to the water being so much warmer here than in the NE.


During the spring and summer when they are spawning, there is seldom any bluefin caught that are worth anything due to them spawning (effects their meat color) along with the warmer water.

During the winter, the fish can be just as good as fish from the northeast. They used to be caught in the gulf during the winter months by long liners. During the summer months, not much blue fin were caught and sold commercially. Not sure what the laws are now for the commercials as I have been out of it for about 5 years now.


Posted by islandtiger
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Posted on 4/5/13 at 6:09 am to
If I remember correctly, Gulf commercial longliners now need to use special hooks that will not hold large tuna.
Posted by spacewrangler
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Posted on 4/5/13 at 7:34 am to
unless it has chaneged you can keep 1 trophy size BFT in the GOM, but youre not supposed to target them. it's a grey area law. most captains that i know from OB have caught them in the Green Canyon, long ride from here but not bad from LA.

LINK


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The current daily retention limit that applies to both HMS Angling and Charter/Headboat vessels (when fishing recreationally) will be one school, large school, or small medium BFT per vessel per day/trip, (i.e., one fish measuring 27 to less than 73 inches). In addition to the daily retention limit, vessels are also allowed one ‘trophy’ BFT, measuring 73" or greater/vessel/year. These BFT retention limits are effective for all areas, except for the Gulf of Mexico. The Gulf of Mexico is designated as a spawning ground for BFT and therefore NMFS does not allow recreational caught BFT to be retained while fishing in this area (except for incidental trophy fish. The recreational yellowfin tuna daily retention limit is 3 yellowfin/person/day/trip. The minimum size for yellowfin and bigeye tuna is 27" curved fork length. There are no recreational limits for bigeye, skipjack or albacore tunas.



Posted by JasonL79
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 4/5/13 at 8:20 am to
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If I remember correctly, Gulf commercial longliners now need to use special hooks that will not hold large tuna.


That could be right. They were trying to get them to switch to those hooks years ago to limit the number of blue marlins they catch.
Posted by Jma313
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 4/5/13 at 9:57 am to
I catch blue fins off the coast of New Jersey when i go and visit my family up there. Go about 70 miles out into the Gulf Stream and its easy pickings
This post was edited on 4/5/13 at 9:58 am
Posted by Trout Bandit
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Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:01 am to
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Ask Josh Howard.


+1
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:06 am to
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I catch blue fins off the coast of New Jersey when i go and visit my family up there. Go about 70 miles out into the Gulf Stream and its easy pickings
Do you sell them?
Posted by OhFace55
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Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:13 am to
Two years ago, someone caught a monster bluefin out of venice that they were paid close to a million for because it was the first large bluefin of the japanese new years.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
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Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:21 am to
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Two years ago, someone caught a monster bluefin out of venice that they were paid close to a million for because it was the first large bluefin of the japanese new years.


You sure that was caught out of Venice?


LINK
Posted by JasonL79
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:26 am to
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someone caught a monster bluefin out of venice that they were paid close to a million for because it was the first large bluefin of the japanese new years.


That fish wasn't caught in Venice. The first bluefin bought for the new year is not a good indicator of what bluefin is worth either. The first bluefin of the new year is a cultural thing in Japan and the price is bid up on purpose for good luck, charities, etc. Most of the fish bought over there throughout the year will not touch the price of the first bluefin of the year.
This post was edited on 4/5/13 at 10:27 am
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:29 am to
$3,000+ a pound!

That's swimming gold.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:36 am to
Yeah, the Wicked Tuna guys get 14 to 20ish.
Posted by OhFace55
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:42 am to
I'm aware that it isn't an indicator of the value of bluefin I am just saying that the Japanese will buy bluefin from La during the right times.
Posted by OhFace55
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:46 am to
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You sure that was caught out of Venice?


Your article is from 2013. I said it was two years ago. Could have been longer but either way your link is this year's first bluefin of the japanese new year.
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:47 am to
how do you catch a big blue fin... .without it fighting hard?
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:49 am to
Looks like leaving the rod in the holder is the ticket.
Posted by Jma313
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:51 am to
No we go with a professional fishermen tho. I know a lot of restaurant owners who have their workers go out on boats and just catch em all day and then sell it for so much money tho
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:53 am to
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Your article is from 2013. I said it was two years ago. Could have been longer but either way your link is this year's first bluefin of the japanese new year.


But the article also sates that it broke the record that was set the year before at 56.4 million yen (well under 1 million USD), so I think you are repeating an urban legend, but maybe not support it with a link and I will stand corrected

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Kimura also set the old record of 56.4 million yen at last year's New Year's auction, which tends to attract high bids as a celebratory way to kick off the new year



Posted by JasonL79
Member since Jan 2010
6397 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:55 am to
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Yeah, the Wicked Tuna guys get 14 to 20ish.


That is more like it and even that is a good price bluefin. I have seen them as low as $1.00/lb (some even worthless to buy-boat crew ended up eating it and giving it away to family) and as high as $57/lb back in the early 90's on my parent's seafood docks in Venice and Dulac. The highest my family paid when in the tuna business was around $44/lb. We used to ship several of them to Japan a year and some we would make money and some we would lose money. We had a broker in Japan that would handle the transactions for us. It's a very risky business.

In the 90's Japan's econonmy started tanking and the prices went down. I haven't heard of anything in the gulf even reaching 80's and 90's price levels in the last 15-20 years.
This post was edited on 4/5/13 at 11:01 am
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