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Brian Cole: "The Best Player You Never Saw"

Posted on 4/4/13 at 3:59 pm
Posted by LST
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 3:59 pm
We had a short thread about him before the article came out, but here is the full article. LINK

Brian Cole was a Mets minor leaguer who died in a car wreck. Multiple Big Leaguers including Pujols, Heath Bell, and Brad Hawpe are quoted in the article saying he was the best player they ever played with.

I wish we could have seen this dude play.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 4:13 pm to
Thanks, for sharing.

I'd never heard of him - wish I had seen him play.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 4:24 pm to
He really sounded like an incredible player. Sad story.
Posted by madcap
Member since Mar 2013
1577 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 4:28 pm to
Thanks for posting. Never heard about this.
Posted by Trauma14
Member since Aug 2010
5795 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 4:36 pm to
Read the whole article. I've never heard of him and I teared up at the end with the closing of his poem. Sounded like a great guy and an amazing player.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278140 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 4:37 pm to
No doubt he was good. But typical over glorification of a dead person
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
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89829 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 4:37 pm to
Did you ever see him play, Les?
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

No doubt he was good. But typical over glorification of a dead person

Did you read the article? Did you see his stats?
Posted by Tigerfan19
Member since Mar 2004
2118 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 5:01 pm to
Glad i read the entire article esp. the poem at the end. Wished he would have made it to the bigs, sounded like a great player!
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 6:28 pm to
I only read the first two pages but it did seem a little over the top.
Posted by GeauxAggie972
Poterbin Residence
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 6:29 pm to
It seems over the top because that's how good he was.

I was the one who started that first post when I first got that SI. Such a great and well written article.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278140 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 6:32 pm to
Nope but I read the article the other day. There were something's mentioned that were not humanly possible

I did study his numbers though. Good but did not scream greatness
This post was edited on 4/4/13 at 6:33 pm
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 6:33 pm to
I saw him play in HS and he was an incredible athlete. I played at the same high school a couple of years ahead of him. His older brother could play also. He is now the head baseball coach at the high school
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 6:34 pm to
Hit for average and had good HR and RBI numbers with not a ton of strikeouts. Better than just good
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278140 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 6:41 pm to
his AA numbers

.278 avg
4 HR
25RBI

46 games

326 OBP 420 SLG


a career minor league 850 OPS is good. It was pretty much spent in A ball

the article kind of alludes that he was better than Mike Trout because of his HR/ RBI/ AVG.

quote:

Cole played outfield in the Mets' system from 1998 through 2000. He hit .306 with 42 home runs, 90 doubles, 193 RBIs and 135 stolen bases, numbers that might remind you of the ones Angels phenom Mike Trout put up in three-plus years in the minors—except that Cole had a lot more homers, doubles and RBIs and was 50 pounds lighter and five inches shorter than last year's American League Rookie of the Year.



well he had about 1k more plate appearances in the minor leagues.

if you want to see great numbers, look at Mike Trouts.

He dominated EVERY level(played RK ball through AAA). a career 941 OPS in the minors.

Trout made it to the MLB at 20.

Brian Cole was struggling in AA at 21.

just some perspective.


this guy was clearly not a once in a generation player.
This post was edited on 4/4/13 at 6:43 pm
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96003 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 6:44 pm to
Yeah I'm gonna have to side with you on this.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171035 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 6:50 pm to
He was solid in A and high A though.


A 18 HR, 71 RBI, .316 avg in 125 games

A+ 15 HR and 67 RBI, .312 avg in 91 games


I'm not saying he's once in a generation like Trout, but he was more than just good.
This post was edited on 4/4/13 at 6:51 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278140 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 6:54 pm to
Im not saying he wasn't good. No doubt he was very talented. It's hard to discount some of those first hand accoun ts.


Im just saying, once people die, legends grow.

Im sure his size also had a lot to do with his legend, too.



Look, 5'4" 130 lb 15 year olds do not hit 500' HR's with a wooden bat.

Nor was he 10 steps faster than Jason Tyner(who had a pretty long MLB career mainly because of his speed). There is a story they raced 60 yards and 50 yards in, Cole ran backwards and still won. lol


There are a ton of MiLB players that put up similar numbers in A ball, and many many many pro players that were equally as successful.
Posted by MrPackSix
Lakeview/God's Country
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 6:55 pm to
If a guy like Albert Pujols is saying he was that great I think I'll take his word for it
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171035 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 6:57 pm to
quote:

Im not saying he wasn't good. No doubt he was very talented. It's hard to discount some of those first hand accoun ts.


Im just saying, once people die, legends grow.

Im sure his size also had a lot to do with his legend, too


No I absolutely agree with you, but I think there's truth to some of the stories about him. Although they may be embellished because people tend to remember the good about someone who dies tragically, I'm sure people thought they were seeing a very special player when watching him play, especially when those people are allstars in the MLB.
This post was edited on 4/4/13 at 6:59 pm
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